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Late model Audiolab 8000A review w/pictures

Raynald

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Like a lot of audio products from the UK, the 8000A evolved a lot without ever changing the model number. They continually improved, so the later the unit the better. Early ones were grey with DIN sockets, then grey with RCA, then black and the last ones were black with a Video input in addition to the regular very full complement of inputs. The price stayed remarkably steady, rising from $999 to $1199 over a long period of time. This one has an F in the serial number and the transformer has a 1997 date code so it was probably one of the later ones before the company was bought over by TAG/McLaren and Phil Swift and Derek Scotland left the company. After that the prices went way up and then the company folded to be reborn with products made in China (sorry, I have no experience with any of these later units so I cannot comment).

Having seen some shockingly amateurish stuff from UK audio companies that seemed to be run from someone's garage, the Audiolab was quite a surprise when it arrived in our store. Amazing build quality and a clever design that combined typical purist UK thinking while still incorporating enough mainstream features not to alianated to average buyer. The size was a standard 17", as mentioned earlier there were plenty of inputs, the controls felt nice, tone controls were included but there was a bypass for the purists. Minimalists got their main speakers hooked up without passing through any switches, but a second switched output was there for another room or for the user who might want to turn the main set off when using headphones through the full size socket provided. The most amazing part was that the Audiolab stuff did not blow up, catch fire, melt down, fall apart or generally behave like a lot of the other UK units we had experience with.

We sold these along side the Cyrus line from Mission. For flat out sound and bang for the buck I would have to favor the Cyrus, especially the later metal cased ones. But for most customers the difference was not that obvious and the Audiolab was a much easier sale. I also felt better selling the 8000A to the non enthusiast because it was generally easier to live with and more reliable. The fact that the Audiolab incorporated a very effective (and seemingly sonically transparent) protection circuit for the outputs while many purist competitors did not include any probably saved a few units that were (mis)handled by non enthusiasts.

Having a look inside this one reminds me of just how well built they were. Very neat glass epoxy boards, big Sankin outputs on a clever chimney heatsink, 20000uf of caps, Elnas throughout including purple ones in the phono section that I was told were particularly good and expensive, a nice torroid with a metal plate on top and a piece of what I called BUF (British Ugly Foam, dense multicoloured stuff found only in products from the UK) glued to the top cover to quiet any mechanical hum, a Noble volume pot and many other thoughtful touches. All in all amazing quality for the money.

Sonically this one sticks to the Audiolab tradition. Some strong points are transparency, soundstage and detail. Not at all romantic or warm, though the later ones are neutral rather than having the sterile or bland sound the earlier ones were criticized for. The phono section on the early ones was a weak point, but on this one it is much improved and very good to excellent. All inputs are dead quiet, always an Audiolab trait. The bass and sheer amount of drive are pretty surprising for the size and power rating. It did a credible job driving the very power hungry Mirage M3-Si, though it was not as comfortable as the 3B-ST (no surprise or shame there).

Today these units go for around $300, give or take depending on vintage and shape. For that modest amount of money you get more than a glimpse of true high end construction and sound. Still a very good buy as far as I am concerned, just make sure not to match it with overly bright speakers and sources.

Anyone else have any experience with Audiolabs?
 

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Interesting thoughts on a product that is unbelievably common on this side of the pond - I'm pretty sure most of the UK contingent will be able to say they have experience of the 8000A.
I have an identical model to the one in the picture (F serial number). There is one reliability issue - the plastic around the phono sockets becomes brittle so the metal bit comes off when removing the cables. An easy enough repair I guess, but I'm waiting for an opportunity to drop mine off rather than attempt it myself.
Sound wise they are often dismissed as "tonally grey". I don't know what that means, unless it is that they make everything sound the same, which is partly true - the difference between the A and D string on a violin for example. However I do think they can be overly bright with some speakers and a CD source, although the phono stage is excellent.
I took mine out of circulation in favour of a CR1020, which on balance I preferred with my Castle Chesters, although both are now in the "repair queue", but I might now dig it out to see how it works with the lovely Monitor Audio MA5s churning out Santana downstairs from a slightly weedy sounding Musical Fidelity B1. What fun...
 
I have read about the issue with the sockets. I cannot recall ever seeing one come back to the shop with that problem, but I stopped working there in the early 90s and it seems this was something that happened over time. I guess if some of the units I sold were affected, I was no longer around to hear about it when it happened. I made sure to check the sockets out on this one and they are fine, no problem inserting and removing some tights ICs such as Cardas.

I do remember Meridian at one point having a problem with their sockets right out of the box. When using some high end ICs with tight connectors, the gold plated part would rip off the board and stay on the RCA jack. Always fun to tell the customer who just bought a $3000 CD player that it was his fault for not using cheap generic ICs with his new rig!

We seem to have similar tastes and/or systems because I prefer the balance of my CR-2040 on my Kef 107s. Again, not a shock that the big 4 Ohm 107s with their dual 10" woofers and an active equalizer boosting the bass demand should be happier with a piece that weighs twice as much and has a far more massive transformer. The 8000A was hardly embarassed. Though the bass was not as full, the mids and highs were obviously better with the Audiolab as was the feeling of depth.

I never heard the B1, but I remember liking the original A1 at the time. I also remeber putting it on my wood floor to try it out temporarily and finding the floor underneath alarmingly hot (as in this thing might burn down my building) after a fairly brief run.

By the way, I don't want to seem too hard on UK audio products of the period. I sold tons of Kef, ProAc, Quad, Audiolab, Cyrus, Mission, Meridian, Arcam and a few others. Great stuff, though I would rather forget about the CJ Walker TT that was offered to us...
 
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I just picked up an used 8000A at Audiogon a few weeks ago. Based on your description, it is one of the later series. The sound is very analytical, might be bright sounding in certain systems, but it seems to have a large current design as it drove my 86db speakers efortlessly. It packs a lot of pace and grunt, bass is punchy and tignt. The construction job is superb and I think that, after recapped, it will give a lot of amplifiers costing 2 or 3x more a lot of run for their money...
 
I've heard Audiolabl 8000A units running, but never owned one. I have a Audiolab 8000C and 2 x Audiolab 8000M monoblocs, more powerful and gutsy sounding than the 8000A imho, with more detail and better soundstage/depth (and so it should be for the price).

I find that the preamp section is the weaker component, with the amp sections being very good imho.

I'm more into British audio gear than US, I guess it's a preference thing.

Dave
 
I agree with you on the pre amps not being in the same league as the power amps. At one point I had a pair of ProAcs running off the 8000P and it sounded fantastic...through a Bryston 11B!
 
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Interesting, there are some parts in there that look familiar after doing some work on a Tandberg 3012A integrated recently... the source select & tape routing switches for instance. The transformer too, but the layout is all different.

Looks like they might have shared some era-specific common influences...

John
 
No offence,but in-terms of build quality and more importantly sound quality don't waste your money (sadly,many still do to this day,usually via Ebay UK).
 
Anyone still interested in the Audiolab 8000A. I have a good working one connected with a pair of Celestion DL-12 floor standing speakers.
 
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