List of new 2 channel receivers
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Columbo
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I was using a Technics SA 300 at work for the past 8 years. Recently, one chip went out and I was told it was not available anymore. So, since I needed sound, I rushed out and bought the Sherwood 4105. Hooked it up and was immediately dissappointed with the sound. It had no life, no soul. Seemed to be lacking in bass response too. I then bought the Denon 395, and while it did sound better than the Sherwood, it was more similar to the Sherwood than the Technics. It had clearer sound in the highs, but again lacked soul to me. I was told the Denon was more "musical" than the Yamahas. THEN I was told the part had been located for the Technics, so both of the new recievers went back to the stores. I was happy to have my sound back! On this forum (vintage recievers) I read that those Technics tend to be somewhat heavy on the bass...but I like it.
ExJxC said:Its nice to see there are still two with silver brushed aluminum fronts.
That Outlaw amp is one fine looking machine. Have any of you heard it?
Terry
I own a RR2150, and I am very satisfied with it's performance. I tried a number of amps/receivers before settling on this.... among them a Marantz PM7001, NAD C372, Yamaha RX-797 and Denon DRA-395. I tried these all in my home, with the same set-up. I also own a HK-3480. The RR2150 was the best ..... for me.
Buying audio equiptment is all about compromises..... because nothing is perfect. Sound quality is most important for me, including the amount of background noise ..... thru the speakers as well as thru the headphone output. The RR2150 I consider neutral in sound ..... no over/under emphasized bass,mid or treble...... just balanced(compared with these other models). The tone controls are excellent if you need them, and it has a 3 stage speaker EQ that adds a 6db. boost at 55,65 or 80hz. This is good for low volumes and/or bookshelf speakers.
I can't say much more than I like listening with it very much,and it is well worth trying. I have no problem buying online because I live in a audio "black hole" where there are no audio shops around. Even if I had alot of shops around , I'd still buy online though, because there is no place like home to try your goods, and many retailers have limited return policies, especially the smaller shops. Outlaw give you a full 30 days from the time you receive it.... and I don't think they get many returns.I hand out on the Outlaw forum , called the Saloon, and I know of only one person who dislike their RR2150, and this was because they didn't know how to set up their own sub with it. The problem wasn't the receiver. To each their own
Buying audio equiptment is all about compromises..... because nothing is perfect. Sound quality is most important for me, including the amount of background noise ..... thru the speakers as well as thru the headphone output. The RR2150 I consider neutral in sound ..... no over/under emphasized bass,mid or treble...... just balanced(compared with these other models). The tone controls are excellent if you need them, and it has a 3 stage speaker EQ that adds a 6db. boost at 55,65 or 80hz. This is good for low volumes and/or bookshelf speakers.
I can't say much more than I like listening with it very much,and it is well worth trying. I have no problem buying online because I live in a audio "black hole" where there are no audio shops around. Even if I had alot of shops around , I'd still buy online though, because there is no place like home to try your goods, and many retailers have limited return policies, especially the smaller shops. Outlaw give you a full 30 days from the time you receive it.... and I don't think they get many returns.I hand out on the Outlaw forum , called the Saloon, and I know of only one person who dislike their RR2150, and this was because they didn't know how to set up their own sub with it. The problem wasn't the receiver. To each their own
EricC
Super Member
garth said:I own a RR2150, and I am very satisfied with it's performance. I tried a number of amps/receivers before settling on this.... among them a Marantz PM7001, NAD C372, Yamaha RX-797 and Denon DRA-395. I tried these all in my home, with the same set-up. I also own a HK-3480. The RR2150 was the best ..... for me.
Buying audio equiptment is all about compromises..... because nothing is perfect. Sound quality is most important for me, including the amount of background noise ..... thru the speakers as well as thru the headphone output. The RR2150 I consider neutral in sound ..... no over/under emphasized bass,mid or treble...... just balanced(compared with these other models). The tone controls are excellent if you need them, and it has a 3 stage speaker EQ that adds a 6db. boost at 55,65 or 80hz. This is good for low volumes and/or bookshelf speakers.
I can't say much more than I like listening with it very much,and it is well worth trying. I have no problem buying online because I live in a audio "black hole" where there are no audio shops around. Even if I had alot of shops around , I'd still buy online though, because there is no place like home to try your goods, and many retailers have limited return policies, especially the smaller shops. Outlaw give you a full 30 days from the time you receive it.... and I don't think they get many returns.I hand out on the Outlaw forum , called the Saloon, and I know of only one person who dislike their RR2150, and this was because they didn't know how to set up their own sub with it. The problem wasn't the receiver. To each their own
Welcome to AK. Thanks for your opinion and I hope you stick around. There are several of us here that have been waiting for someone to test out the unit. Any chance we could get some shots of the inside?
Welcome to AK, garth. Thanks for your comments. Look forward to some inside pics.
Terry
Terry
reggaenaut
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Could you give us your reaction to Hk 3480.
Thanks for the welcome . I can't make any promises , but I'll see if I can find the time to take and post some photos. I know people have wanted to see some inside photos in this and other forums, and I suspect we're all too busy enjoying the music we find it hard to turn it off and open it up If you have not seen them, these are the outlaw.com photos of it.
http://www.outlawaudio.com/images/RR2150_Huge.jpg
http://www.outlawaudio.com/images/RR2150P_Huge.jpg
http://www.outlawaudio.com/images/2150R_Huge.jpg
and the manual, I studied before buying it to see how it worked http://pdf.outlawaudio.com/outlaw/docs/2150manual.pdf
As far as the HK3480, I liked it more when I first got it than I do now ..... you know, when you have a new toy it's easy to overlook the flaws:sigh:
It has a neutral sound quality(to me), no over or under emphasized bass/mid/treble. It's not as dynamic as say the NAD line, it's a little more laid back... but pleasurable to listen to.
The offensive part of it for me is the background noise..... a zzzzzz sound ..... the sound you hear if you've ever walked under a power line on a quiet day. I discovered it first when auditioning new headphones. With the cheapest, the Sennheiser HD-201, it didn't bother me much. When I tried the HD-280 and 595's, it was too loud to ignore. I could hear the sound in quiet passages on CD's. I went through a thorough drill to find the source of the noise,wether a ground loop or other interference, and narrowed to the 3480 itself. HK service eventually sent me 2 more units, and plugging them into the wall with nothing but headphones hooked up, and the zzzzz was in all of them. HK servce was commendable because they offered me a full refund, despite this being some 6 months after the original sale. I ended up giving it to my father to use, because the noise wasn't bothersome to him, and he wanted a new receiver anyways. The sound is barely audible thru the speakers, so if you don't use headphones you may never notice it. If it wasn't for the noise, I'd still probably be using it.
The RR2150, is dead quiet all the time.... and the HD-595 sounds great with it. For the extra $$$, it appears to be a better build, better engineering. We usually get what we pay for..... and in this case the cost to get a quiet amp is worth it. It sounds a little more dynamic than the 3480, but nothing earth shattering. Of course, all this is just my findings with my ears and brain Everyone hears differently.
If you have not seen them, these are the outlaw.com photos of it.http://www.outlawaudio.com/images/RR2150_Huge.jpg
http://www.outlawaudio.com/images/RR2150P_Huge.jpg
http://www.outlawaudio.com/images/2150R_Huge.jpg
and the manual, I studied before buying it to see how it worked http://pdf.outlawaudio.com/outlaw/docs/2150manual.pdf
As far as the HK3480, I liked it more when I first got it than I do now ..... you know, when you have a new toy it's easy to overlook the flaws:sigh:
It has a neutral sound quality(to me), no over or under emphasized bass/mid/treble. It's not as dynamic as say the NAD line, it's a little more laid back... but pleasurable to listen to.
The offensive part of it for me is the background noise..... a zzzzzz sound ..... the sound you hear if you've ever walked under a power line on a quiet day. I discovered it first when auditioning new headphones. With the cheapest, the Sennheiser HD-201, it didn't bother me much. When I tried the HD-280 and 595's, it was too loud to ignore. I could hear the sound in quiet passages on CD's. I went through a thorough drill to find the source of the noise,wether a ground loop or other interference, and narrowed to the 3480 itself. HK service eventually sent me 2 more units, and plugging them into the wall with nothing but headphones hooked up, and the zzzzz was in all of them. HK servce was commendable because they offered me a full refund, despite this being some 6 months after the original sale. I ended up giving it to my father to use, because the noise wasn't bothersome to him, and he wanted a new receiver anyways. The sound is barely audible thru the speakers, so if you don't use headphones you may never notice it. If it wasn't for the noise, I'd still probably be using it.
The RR2150, is dead quiet all the time.... and the HD-595 sounds great with it. For the extra $$$, it appears to be a better build, better engineering. We usually get what we pay for..... and in this case the cost to get a quiet amp is worth it. It sounds a little more dynamic than the 3480, but nothing earth shattering. Of course, all this is just my findings with my ears and brain
Everyone hears differently.What about Teac's 2 channel gear?
Kenwood 103AR
EricC
Super Member
Not on the market in the US.
RadShak1251
Super Member
Though I guess they aren't being shipped yet, Pioneer's recently announced SX-A6 and SX-A9 Elite series stereo receivers should be available soon.
Just wanted to add real quick that the Outlaw is the only stereo receiver I know of with full bass management onboard (i.e. adjustable low-pass and high-pass filters), and it's a 100% analog system. Many other 2.0 receivers have sub outputs but there is no filtering system present, making it very difficult to properly integrate a subwoofer with the main speakers.
Just wanted to add real quick that the Outlaw is the only stereo receiver I know of with full bass management onboard (i.e. adjustable low-pass and high-pass filters), and it's a 100% analog system. Many other 2.0 receivers have sub outputs but there is no filtering system present, making it very difficult to properly integrate a subwoofer with the main speakers.
