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Lux and B&W just sing together -- happy musician dude

ghaubrich

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About 20 years ago my daughter and some of her teen friends blew out my system at a party I wasn't invited to ... . I can't imagine what they were doing to it, but it had to be awesome cuz it was two NAD strapped amps and some pretty nice B&Ws ... . And then divorce hell and it has been a long time to once again have a system that I just love to effin' listen to (and jam with, I play trumpet and keys) ... . But here it is --

Luxman M-117 power amp (200 to 8, 400 to 4, 750 bridged mono)
Luxman TP-117 tuner preamp (outboard iFi phono preamp)
Luxman PD-272 table with Micro-Sekei TA-1 original tonearm
Grado Gold 3
Sony UBP-XS1100ES disc player (SACD)
Auris BluMe bluetooth DAC
B&W 803 Matrix (bi-wired)
Velodyne 10" powered sub

this, is music. It is engrossing and sublime. Listening for a second time to Grieg Violin Sonata 3 ... Duo Gazzana on bluetooth off of youtube music ... there's an artifact in the piano that makes it click on a certain type of upper register attack ... at first I thought it was a defect in the recording, and I guess it is but it's clearly in the piano and the stereo is just tellin' the truth ...

Decades ago (late 70s early 80s) I worked in some pretty nice stereo/video shops in California (Daly City), Missouri (Springfield), and here in Oklahoma City. However, I'm not sure I learned much other than the most important thing, which is to listen with my own ears. This amp was the piece that really makes this system I've been working to build for a couple of years fulfilling. It replaces a nice amp (Sony 330 ES, 110 wpc), but 803s of any version require more than a "nice" amp. They need stable current to drive low impedance and highly-variable impedance loads. I bought them from a guy who had them hooked up to a Marantz 45 wpc receiver and they sounded like tinny wood. crazy. he claimed to be an electrical contractor and musician. huh.

Right now I'm listening to LSO Nutcracker and those 803s with Luxman power sound like the London Symphony Orchestra is here in my studio/study including a very deep, broad, and resonant bass section in a huge symphony hall.

My own opinion, and I've done a lot of research the last couple of years including listening to many of the voices, questions, and answers here on audiogon, is that it makes a lot of sense to match components by brand IF they are high quality companies, simply because they are more likely to have been engineered to work well together. I have zero doubt there are "better" pre-amps and amps, but then this amp and pre only cost me a bit over $1000.00, purchased separately ... and I got a great tuner and the ability to run a second system off of it if I want to ... . and when I say great tuner, this is a GREAT tuner.

This amp is fast, powerful, clean, wide, tall, deep, smooth. Soundstage, clarity, accuracy, beauty of music in all its glory, Luxman. Yah I know it's Alpine era. It's an American market version of the silver front M-03 Luxman, which was sold in Europe and maybe Japan.

Anybody got another one they just can't stand, make sure to find someone who can appreciate it because this is one beautiful powerful musical outstanding killer diller amplifier and those 803s ain't bad neither. LIke I said this sounds like music. here. present. It's stupid, I know, but it's also brilliant, I'm sitting here just happy cuz it sounds so freakin' good.
 
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Love it, you’re living my dream! I’ve had a pair of Matrix 804s in my main system for almost 10 years, and have never had a proper amp powering them. I’m often using a home theater receiver set up to bi-amp which is better than an under-powered amp. But I’ve been on the hunt for an adequately sized 90s-era amp and pre combo to really do these guys justice.

Be sure to post a pic or two :cool:

Dan
 
Love it, you’re living my dream! I’ve had a pair of Matrix 804s in my main system for almost 10 years, and have never had a proper amp powering them. I’m often using a home theater receiver set up to bi-amp which is better than an under-powered amp. But I’ve been on the hunt for an adequately sized 90s-era amp and pre combo to really do these guys justice.

Be sure to post a pic or two :cool:

Dan
 
Nice... - might want to experiment with speakers placement - wider and perhaps toed in (some like it - others don't).
 
Nice... - might want to experiment with speakers placement - wider and perhaps toed in (some like it - others don't).
Agreed about moving them wider, they're actually toed in just a touch, but I'd have to get a different desk and my wife correctly notes that I tend to "manspread" so this is kinda where they need to be. I bought the amp from a record producer who's also a technician. HIS wife tells me he regrets letting it go and I've gotta say I totally understand. That thing and these 803s are both beautiful sounding and super accurate.

"Where so ever you want to go, music will take you there". Right. so yesterday I was listening to a mix that included some really crazy dynamics we'd recorded in here ... my sound anchor is my horn; I know what it sounds like, and have learned over time how to record it accurately with a couple of mics. I double checked with my buddy who plays with and records with me here and he agreed -- that's exactly what it sounds like. so YAY! ... music is LIFE Ms. Gongli!
 
Looks like a great system. Luxman amplifiers seem to make all speakers sound good. My 805s were good with other amps, but only started to sing with a Luxman M 2000 borrowed from a friend. I promptly got him to get me one on ebay. It's my end game. Only looking for a preamp to complete my system. I also use a grado , so we have 3 items in common. So good to know you as a musician like the system. So many people complain about B&W, but I've always loved them
 
Looks like a great system. Luxman amplifiers seem to make all speakers sound good. My 805s were good with other amps, but only started to sing with a Luxman M 2000 borrowed from a friend. I promptly got him to get me one on ebay. It's my end game. Only looking for a preamp to complete my system. I also use a grado , so we have 3 items in common. So good to know you as a musician like the system. So many people complain about B&W, but I've always loved them

I had a Sony 110 Wpc ES series amp from the same era. very good amp. very well made. very high-end Sony. It played music and sounded good, to a point. But when I really pushed it I could hear stuff I did not want to hear. Lux amps deliver into pretty much any load, and I don't know about 805s but 803 Matrixes have a pretty crazed impedance curve. I've looked at a lot of the champagne Lux pre-amps ... . But when the sound is this happy, why mess with it? enjoy VDB!
 
I had a Sony 110 Wpc ES series amp from the same era. very good amp. very well made. very high-end Sony. It played music and sounded good, to a point. But when I really pushed it I could hear stuff I did not want to hear. Lux amps deliver into pretty much any load, and I don't know about 805s but 803 Matrixes have a pretty crazed impedance curve. I've looked at a lot of the champagne Lux pre-amps ... . But when the sound is this happy, why mess with it? enjoy VDB!
Yes. The Luxman is special. They take a hold of the speakers with an complete control without any harshness. I used a dynaudio subwoofer with other amps, but with the M 2000 i don't feel the need as it gets such clean bass out of the 805s'. For the pre I have always loved the look of the audio research ones. Some day....
 
Yes. I'm hooked. I was lucky I got to try a friends m2000. After that I wanted only that power amp. Nothing else would do. Everything sounds so right with it and the 805s'. Currently using a Schiit Valhalla headphone amp as a pre but I'm lurking to pounce on an Audio Research.
 
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