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Magnavox Micromatic W620 running slow at cold start

Scott Powers

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Hello Folks,
First time posting here, I looked around but didn't see another post that answered my question so presenting this to the group. Picked up a nice Magnovox console last week with a Micromatic W620 turntable. Like most people's experience when buying vintage equipment the turntable would not move. I pulled the tt, cleaned and applied new white lithium grease to the unit. I put it back in the console and Jackpot it works!! The problem is on cold starts, first record of the day, it sounds very warbled. After playing for approximately 21/2 minutes it was all good and sounded fine. I continued to read what might be wrong and discovered that the idler wheel should have been re-lubed with a lighter oil instead of the lithium grease. I pulled the platter and took the idler wheel off, cleaned it again and this time added sewing machine oil. On cold start it still sounds warbled but instead of the 21/2 minutes it was now clear and sounding good after playing for 30-45 seconds. So an improvement. I investigated further and also discovered I had put the packed bearing under the platter upside down, so I flipped that and added a few drops of the lighter oil on the spindle and put the platter back on. So this morning I put on a LP hoping to have solved the slow cold start problem.... nope, it is still warbled and not at a constant speed for the same 30-45 second warm up. Not sure where to look at not. It seems to be that it has something to do with lubrication and the need to run a bit to get warmed up... I'm just not sure if I under/over lubricated or used the wrong stuff. Hoping the collective knowledge of the group can solve this for me. Thank you all.
 
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If you haven't done so already, the motor should be taken apart, the bearings need to be cleaned and relubricated.
 
I have not taken the motor apart. Do you think that could be the culprit? It just seemed strange that the time to normal speed has improved with the couple other things I did. I will pull it now and clean and re-lube. Should I use lithium grease of lighter oil on the motor?
 
Use light weight oil on bronze bushings like motor bearings and idler wheels. Use motor oil on the platter bearing and use grease on sliding parts only.
Be aware that not all sliding bits require lube.
You MUST send the idler out to be rebuilt or it will never work properly. I use Thevoiceofmusic.com for this almost weekly.
 
Motor opened, cleaned and lubricated.. Started it up and sounds perfect, no warble. The real test will be tomorrow morning and a true cold start ( I live in an old farmhouse that is hard to keep above 64). Regardless I think this was the missing link, I should not have skipped the motor, dumb on my part. Thank you for all the suggestions.
 
resurrecting this thread with a similar question -
I've disassembled the motor - but I'm not sure how to take apart the bearings or remove the top gearing to get in an clean the top bearing - any tips? Are these supposed to be disassembled? Or do you just flush them out with solvent as best as possible?



 
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