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Marantz 140 - 2 ohm load

labatt242

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Hello!

I have a Marantz 140 with new main caps ( 2 x 15 000uf Mundorf) also 100% recapped and I'm wondering if I can run the 140 with my actual pair of Cerwin Vega D7 with a pair of Cerwin Vega D9 (system A + B from Marantz 3600). Am I better to add a second Marantz 140 to run the D9s? I heard D7 are around 6 ohm and D9 are 4 ohm.

Thanks !

Guy
 
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Two 8 ohm speaker pairs would give you a 4 ohm load with the 140. I have two of the 140's. It hasn't been a problem running two pairs of 8 ohm speakers with just one 140. The matching 3200 preamp and the 3600 both have speaker switching built in. Running a pair of 6 and 4 ohm speakers at the same time wouldnt be advisable. I would only run one pair at a time. The 6 or 4 ohm but not both together.
 
Two 8 ohm speaker pairs would give you a 4 ohm load with the 140. I have two of the 140's. It hasn't been a problem running two pairs of 8 ohm speakers with just one 140. The matching 3200 preamp and the 3600 both have speaker switching built in. Running a pair of 6 and 4 ohm speakers at the same time wouldnt be advisable. I would only run one pair at a time. The 6 or 4 ohm but not both together.
I agree with you running two pairs of 8 ohm is not an issue. I like loud sound so I will not push my Marantz 140 using a 6 + 4 ohm load. My Marantz 3600 pre amp have two pre out of amplifiers !
 
I agree with you running two pairs of 8 ohm is not an issue. I like loud sound so I will not push my Marantz 140 using a 6 + 4 ohm load. My Marantz 3600 pre amp have two pre out of amplifiers !
I had a 3600 at one time myself. Running 6 ohm and 4 ohm speakers at the same time even at low volumes with that amplifier Is very risky.
 
Actually, I'm shocked that the Marantz 140 specs say "8ohm (minimum)"?!?! I would have thought that these early Marantz amps would be comfortable - stable - at 4ohm loads or lower... Apparently not...
Perhaps someone else can weigh in... HifiEngine is where I got my info from..

They're not intended to drive 4 ohm loads, let alone 2 ohm loads. When Marantz in the manual advises you not to drive less than an 8 ohm load, follow that advice. 6 ohms likely would be OK, 4 ohms is not. That advice is also for your protection. I recommend getting different loudspeakers, which are an easy, non reactive with frequency 8 ohm load, which does not drop below 6 ohms.

The only solid state amplifier I am aware of from that era which could even come close to driving a 2 ohm load would have been McIntosh power amplifiers with autoformers. The MC 250, MC 2505, MC 2100, and MC 2105 are those amplifiers of the period. And also were more expensive new. Not to mention heavier. Back in that era, 2 ohm loads were not a factor. 4 ohms was somewhat important as some speakers were rated at 4 ohms.
 
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Always a contentious issue is this. A couple of points. Generally the impedance stated on the name plate of loudspeakers is a nominal value i.e. 4ohms or 8 ohms. Most speakers will have an impedance below this stated value at some point(s) over the audio band. No loudspeaker system has constant impedance over it's entire operating range. It's true that a pair of 8 ohm (nominal) speakers connected in parallel will create a (nominal) 4 ohm load to the amplifier, but this will in all probability be somewhere around 3 ohms at some point. The amplifier manufacturer will state an impedance limit for full load operation, usually with any tone controls set flat and this limit will be conservative. Yes, as stated above, you can run lower impedance loads on an amplifier, but on your own head be it. Although the impedance may seem O.K. and it may work, albeit at low volume levels, as the impedance seen by the amplifier output stage halves the heating effects on the transistor junctions increase by a factor of 4 exponentially. Remember that heat is the killer for electronics. So, if you have an amp rated at 8ohms minimum and decide to run 2ohm speakers, the impedance is 1/4 of that minimum, but the heating effect on the output transistors has gone up by a factor of 16. So although it may be possible to run as low as 2ohms the amp may not last long especially if you are inclined to turn the volume up.
By the way (I think some people get a little confused) having switched outputs for 2 pairs of speakers with both on at the same time is the same as connecting 2 loudspeakers in parallel to the same pair of terminals. Although you have separate switching for each pair of speakers you still have only one amplifier.

Hope this helps.
 
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