Marantz Dolby Decoder: Why????

[vintagestereo]

You must have lots of money...o_o
I am poor, so I have to buy broke stuff and fix it myself..hehe

Alex -- Not an issue of money, just desire. I wait until I get what I want and don't buy on impulse just because something I don't really want happens to be cheap. Different strokes for different folks. Some guys like to work on their cars whereas others are more than happy to pay someone else to do it. Same with audio.

I don't have any interest in diagnosing electronics problems. A friend of mine got electrocuted because of a "slip up" and I don't like working with a soldering iron. Someone who has expertise and interest in that should be paid to do it. I just like listening to music reproduced as best it can be.

I've got many other things, like art and Marathon running, that I find more enjoyable. And, of course, AK!!!!

-- Chris

 

[bully]

I appreciate the congenial way you guys have conducted this thread.
BTW, I don't think you're actually black or white, there is a common bit there.
Now my own kicker, I have never had any compulsion to buy Marantz gear. I started my real stereo thing going from my Zenith Allegro to a Pioneer SA-9100 and a pair of CS-88A. Traded the SA-9100 for the SX-828 because I couldn't afford the TX-9100 and I wanted TOTL gear even then. And no urge to buy Marantz because I didn't think much of the wimpy 2270. Now, if there had never been a 2270 and the 2275 instead, maybe I would have made a different decision.

 

[vintagestereo]

I started my real stereo thing going from my Zenith Allegro to a Pioneer SA-9100 and a pair of CS-88A.

That's quite a transition!!! It could almost cause a heart attack. Glad you survived!!!!!! :yes:

 

[alexkerhead]

And no urge to buy Marantz because I didn't think much of the wimpy 2270. Now, if there had never been a 2270 and the 2275 instead, maybe I would have made a different decision.

Wimpy?
Where did you hear that?
Marantz 2270 is 70wpc Clean.
Was that a joke? :sigh:

Shoot, even most 2270s bench over spec.
I am confused.


A pioneer sx-828 has only 54wpc clean..
Even the SA-9100 is only 60wpc clean.

:scratch2:

 

[basicblues]

I have my fair share of Marantz, mainly because I "just like um" and partly because I found killer deals on them. I also collect manuals and literature pertaining to some of the gear I own which produces no sound and may be useless to some but certainly "enhances" my ownership of each. I suspect that someone who desires obtaining a FM dolby module that is considered useless is completing their collection for their own enjoyment or enhancement.

Maybe the real question is where the price line on how much a collector is willing to pay for an otherwise useless item? Apparently, it's more than one/we would expect considering what else could be purchased with the same amount of money.

I originally thought the link provided was to this Completed Auction which was personally more than what I pay but what if I just flipped a piece, cleared $150 then in my mind I'd only have $25.49 (plus shipping) in this otherwise useless item (or spend elsewhere). Maybe we gotta spend our hard earned money on something, even if it's something useless.

 

[SoCal Sam]

Sam - I'm just wondering WHY people buy certain things that to me make no sense. How much of their buying decisions are based on ignorance/impulse and how much is based upon highly-informed decision making? :scratch2:

Frankly, I don't really care what they buy, but I do find human nature FASCINATING! People can, obviously, spend their money on what they want. But, not all things are good and not all purchases are wise.

-- Chris

Chris: There is absolutely no need to characterize the people who make buy decisions. As far as I am concerned, the marketplace determines wisdom. If you overpay, you deserve brickbats. Otherwise, it's all good.

 

[SoCal Sam]

Where did you get the idea that they were being "stored uselessly"? Nothing could be further from the truth! All my TOTL Marantz Receivers are kept on Baker's Racks for display and enjoyment. Each one get listened to at least once a month. At some point in the future they will become part of an audio Museum of Monster Receivers from the pre-90's, so it's important that they get enough exercise.

Every month, I put one in the rack next to my bed for some serious listening. Right now the TA-165 is there. BPC for sure, but sounds surprising good. It's got the "Marantz sound" afterall. And lots of it!!

Collecting all of the Marantz Receivers has been a great deal of fun! I have more Marantz Receivers than any other brand by far (8 Pioneers, 5 Yammies, 3 Sansuis, 3 Luxmans, 3 Kenwoods, 1 Rotel, 1 Toshiba, 1 Hitachi, 1 Carver, 1 H/K, 2 Kyocera, Fisher, 1 Concept, 3 Lafayette, 1 Realistic, 2 Sony...and that's just what I can see from where I'm typing). I'm not about to part with a single one. The only Marantz TOTLs I'm missing are the 2600 and the 19. A nice 19 should be added shortly and I'm just going to have to forget about a 2600. Since the 2330 does not have the flawed power supply, I'll get one of those as the representative of that era. Of course a 2600 donation will be gladly accepted. Just not worth what they're going for these days.

Good luck on expanding your collection.

-- Chris

Don't forget the 2500! It was briefly TOTL.

 

[ruesselschorf]

IIRC, Marantz began to include full featured Dolby B processors with the Quad receivers 4230,4240,4270,4300,4400 and the 2325 mainly for use with external cassette or RTR decks. The 4300 and 4400 had even 4 discrete Dolby processor cards, for tape monitor purposes on 3-head tape-decks. To include Dolby-FM was no big deal.
That Dolby thing used a lot of space on the front panel, one rotary switch, 2 pushbuttons, 6 potentiometers, an extra 400 Hz sinewave generator for tape calibration..
Time went on, cassette decks had all Dolby B (or later Dolby C) as a standart, receiver-Dolby became obsolete and was never integrated in the new 2330 and 2330B line of receivers.
Since Dolby-FM never arrived in Europe, the euro-models 2330B - 2600 did not have that Dolby-FM socked on the rear, but had instead another (AUX-2) input.

Helmut

 

[vintagestereo]

Helmut -- Thanks for the assessment. The 2325 does have a "complete" Dolby package, complete with calibration metering, etc. The Dolby FM fature on the subsequent models was just for FM only and could not be used with RTRs.

 

[SoCal Sam]

IIRC, Marantz began to include full featured Dolby B processors with the Quad receivers 4230,4240,4270,4300,4400 and the 2325 mainly for use with external cassette or RTR decks. The 4300 and 4400 had even 4 discrete Dolby processor cards, for tape monitor purposes on 3-head tape-decks. To include Dolby-FM was no big deal.
That Dolby thing used a lot of space on the front panel, one rotary switch, 2 pushbuttons, 6 potentiometers, an extra 400 Hz sinewave generator for tape calibration..
Time went on, cassette decks had all Dolby B (or later Dolby C) as a standart, receiver-Dolby became obsolete and was never integrated in the new 2330 and 2330B line of receivers.
Since Dolby-FM never arrived in Europe, the euro-models 2330B - 2600 did not have that Dolby-FM socked on the rear, but had instead another (AUX-2) input.

Helmut

Helmut, there is a 2330BD with the Dolby built in.

See here...

And there is a 2285BD as well. I don't know if either were sold overseas.

 

[Redcatcher199th]

Now you're really making me laugh!!! I hardly "hate" Marantz. In fact, I'm probably one of the biggest Marantz fans there is! I have 22 of their TOTL Receivers at the moment.

In fact, one of my favorite sounding Receivers is the 2285B, which sounds much like your 2265B. What I don't like is people "hyping" stuff that's just not all that great (like the 2500 and 2600) so that they drive the prices up. But, that's just my 2 cents.

However, some Marantz gear could have been designed better from a reliability/preservation standpoint.

It's interested to note that Poineer never included built-in Dolby FM on any of their TOTL Models, but included the de-emphasis and jacks to connect a decoder, instead of going the plug-in route.

Currently, I have the following Dolby FM-equipped Receivers:

Marantz 2325
Sansui 9090DB
Toshiba SA-7150
Lafayette LR-120DB
Sony STR-7800SD

Plus, I have the follwing receivers with the de-emphasis but no built-in Dolby:

Rotel RX-1603
Pioneer SX-1280
Pioneer SX-1250

Interestingly, Hitachi, Fisher and Technics didn't include Dolby FM-related features on their TOTL units.

Form what I can tell, only the Marantz 2325 had Dolby FM "standard" and the other Marantz receivers designed for it needed the cartridge.

However, it is clear that you can get the de-emphasis "sound" without the Dolby Cartridge. So, adding one to your 2265B really won't really add anything new.

I certainly don't mean to imply that everyone is stupid. However, some people are ignorant, whether they'll admit it or not. And, ignorance is something we should all try to eradicate.

The 2285B is a beautiful receiver I had 2 one working one hit by lightning

It played but @ 100 % volume .......Who said cat's cant fly ?? lol mine did

I have never had a receiver that just made a sound all of its own nice equipment

And the buyer is a member

"I found the missing part's faceplate buttons"

I sure would like to complete the deal pls IM me with address S thanks


Brian.....