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Mitsubishi LT 30 Turntable

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I'm seeing a couple of these tables available on the "check out this sweat deal!" auction site and both are starting around the $500 range. One has a BIN at $1500! Which seems a absurd. The coincidence is , I live in the area that that table is being offered in. What is a reasonable price for one of these tables? I've never had a linear tracking turntable and am curious of its merits. Thanks.
 
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Personally I'd avoid --- I think linear tonearms slow down cues and are finicky to use, for every working one you run in to there's probably 4-5 that are broken.
 
Personally I'd avoid --- I think linear tonearms slow down cues and are finicky to use, for every working one you run in to there's probably 4-5 that are broken.

LT30 is an excellent table.

"linear turntables slow down cues" ??? Sorry, but that makes no sense whatsoever.
 
Personally I'd avoid --- I think linear tonearms slow down cues and are finicky to use, for every working one you run in to there's probably 4-5 that are broken.

LT30 is an excellent table.

"linear turntables slow down cues" ??? Sorry, but that makes no sense whatsoever.

It does make sense, but I consider it a non-issue. I prefer pressing a button and letting a robot gently start my music vs me quickly grabbing a tonearm and possibly scratching the record in haste. When I operate fully manual tables with traditional arms, I have to raise the cueing lever, move the arm, check to make sure I moved it to the right spot, then lower it. That's too much work! Give me automation!!!
 
LT30 is an excellent table.

"linear turntables slow down cues" ??? Sorry, but that makes no sense whatsoever.


I had an LT-30 that worked flawlessly. I've owned several linear tracking tables. They slow me down regardless of which track I want to cue on an LP. A conventional or tangentially tracking arm is way easier to use.

Can't really remember each linear tracker table I've had but off the top of my head SL-10, P-1000, LT-30, LT-5V, LT-20 --- just cause a table is the top of the line and collectible/expensive does to mean it is a good table that's easy to use.
 
I sure like mine , I have not had a vast variety of tables but this one to me sounds the best out of the ones I've had . I do like the ease of use also . They are getting pretty stupid on price but apparently they are becoming pretty sought after . You used to be able to pick one up that needed belts and maybe a little other work such as a few bulbs for 200 to 300 , haven't seen one priced like that lately . They seem to be going for 600 plus one the auction site .
 
LT-30 is a decent turntable. I bought one in very good shape for $500, which seems about right to me. However, I realized afterwards, mine lacks the factory dustcover which would be nice to have. I bought a second one for spare parts for $250, also lacking dustcover. I would not pay much more than $500 as there are other choices, and one should realize that linear tracking is not the end-all-be-all.

In general everything works well. Last week I spent some time covering the stainless arm tube and my replacement headshell (I use a Sumiko headshell) in hockey tape to reduce resonances, now I think it's pretty close to top class. As they were from factory, I think the arm is a bit too resonant and the arm mass slightly too low for my Dynavector Karat 17D3 cartridge.

Linear tracking removes some problems, doesn't help with others, and actually can some things slightly worse. The arm moves horizontally across the record in small spurts about once every 2-4 seconds. When I first got the table, there was a very slight noise when it moved (I could hear it in very very quiet room with no music playing). That noise has gone way, but I think this non-continuous movement changes the typical wow of the record in an undesirable way. I once used another linear tracking table, a Sony PSX-800, and its arm moved almost continuously, and I think that was better.

As background, you should know that virtually all wow (as in wow-and-flutter, wow is a slow speed change) from a record playing machine comes from the off-center record holes. You can see these in graphs produced by programs such as Dr Feickert's, and posted by Michael Fremer. Only the Nakamichi turntables have ever tried to eliminate that. Apparently we can tune it out mostly and it generates relatively little discontent among vinyl audiophiles nowadays, even though it's the #1 most easily measured fault of turntables.

This "normal" wow is up/down every 1/2 second and about 0.1%. Now imagine, somewhat unpredictably, there's a slight extra stretch every second or so. The movement of the LT-30 arm occurs right when the arm is at the innermost part of the wow, and slightly cancels the leading edge of that wow as the arm which was tending to the inside is now made straight. But it doesn't perfectly align with the normal wow, and makes it slightly irregular because it doesn't always happen at the exactly the same relative time.

This isn't a huge problem, because it's slightly lower than the normal wow which most audiophiles, even very picky ones, ignore. BTW, you can see this on a feickert-like graph of the wow and flutter as a slight irregularity.

It's for this sort of picky reason that LT-30 isn't my "ultimate" turntable. I'm working on several project turntables with may replace it, as would my PSX-800 if I could ever get that working again. One thing, among linear trackers, LT-30 is probably about as reliable as it gets, and one should be amazed if it even works at all after 36 years from manufacture. Good luck with that $200k Rockport or whatever.
 
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