Monster Cable score
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Mister Pig
Pigamus Maximus
Had to call it something. Now if you are smarter than the guy who created technical improvements to Skywalker Studios then I would look forward to hearing how you can tell us how he is mistaken about electrical theory and appropriate solutions.
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Mister Pig
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reydelaplaya
Super Member
You realize though that there's a conductor in that inner core? Here's a snapshot of mine that I just stripped off the blue insulation.
The way it was explained to me at the store when I bought them was that I was to strip the insulation off at both ends and twist it in with the rest of the wire - it was separate for 'more accurate transmission of the highs'.
Unless they're referring to that clear plastic sheath that's around the outer conductor. In which case, IDK? LOL
Nope, just checked their website. That clear plastic is the LPE Dielectric.
That blue center conductor must be the magnetic flux whatever-it-is.
loopstick
Lunatic Member
Boo. Hiss.
reydelaplaya
Super Member
From what I can tell in person, it's probably copper - that pic does show it a little silvery though.
Now that I've cut back a couple inches and see that there's shiny clean copper in there, I might need to find a use for it all - I do have extra speakers and that Sony D1090 I picked up over the summer that's still in its box... hmmm.
Mister Pig
Pigamus Maximus
Boo. Hiss.
Eh feel free to answer the same question if you want. I couldn't. Bruce Brisson is a pretty bright guy, who knows how to use test equipment far better than the average Joe. An excerpt from an interview gives this nugget of information.
In an effort to quantify every component, every networked cable that is developed at MIT undergoes testing during development. I own two Hi-Rel Hewlett Packard impedance analyzers, one stays at my home lab, and the other in my office at MIT. In addition, in order to insure quality control of every product, MIT additionally owns two additional impedance analyzers that we use on the production line.
From this interview
http://www.dagogo.com/the-bruce-brisson-interview-part-1
It is my opinion that he knows a thing or two about electrical engineering, and a thing or two about cable design. But that is just my opinion. If you can prove this wrong, I sure would be interested in reading it.
Regards
Mister Pig
BillWojo
Addicted Member
If that single strand of insulated wire gave us "more accurate transmission of the highs" than surely we could measure that and Monster would tout the improvements as measurable facts with actual data.
"Time Coherent Windings" sounds like something to do with phase shift. Again, easily measured.
Where is the data? Monster sells BS!
I'm not saying that all of there products are junk, I happen to like there better speaker wire. I'm just not buying it new so those A-Hole add executives can get bonus money out of my pocket. If I was buying new, I'd look elsewhere.
BillWojo
"Time Coherent Windings" sounds like something to do with phase shift. Again, easily measured.
Where is the data? Monster sells BS!
I'm not saying that all of there products are junk, I happen to like there better speaker wire. I'm just not buying it new so those A-Hole add executives can get bonus money out of my pocket. If I was buying new, I'd look elsewhere.
BillWojo
loopstick
Lunatic Member
I sure would be interested to know if your boy has a degree in electrical engineering.
Mister Pig
Pigamus Maximus
Amazing. Trash a company when you willingly buy their products from the used market. You really shouldn't compromise your principals with even buying used products..... A well pricipaled fellow would refuse to be associated with the company under any circumstances. Box it up and send it to me, I can dispose of it for you. Moral integrity always be paramount.
Regards
Mister Pig
BillWojo
Addicted Member
Just want to add something else, if the interconnect cables were so much more accurate in transmitting low level signals, I think there are a large number of companies that would like to know about them.
One product that comes to mind is an extremely high gain amplifier for amplifying signals that even our most sensitive preamps couldn't pick out from the back ground noise.
As of yet, I see no Monster cables on any oscilloscope probes.
If Tektronix started using Monster cable technology in there scope probes than maybe I would say there is something to there BS. The transmission of signals, especially low frequency signals like audio is fully understood and documented and can be measured with extreme accuracy down to many, many decimal points.
BillWojo
One product that comes to mind is an extremely high gain amplifier for amplifying signals that even our most sensitive preamps couldn't pick out from the back ground noise.
As of yet, I see no Monster cables on any oscilloscope probes.
If Tektronix started using Monster cable technology in there scope probes than maybe I would say there is something to there BS. The transmission of signals, especially low frequency signals like audio is fully understood and documented and can be measured with extreme accuracy down to many, many decimal points.
BillWojo
BillWojo
Addicted Member
Mister Pig, I have no problem buying there stuff for penny's on the dollar. The original purchaser already contributed his hard earned dollars to the dishonest corporate swindlers. I'm just paying what it's worth on the used spot market at the time. Not one cent of my money goes back to Monster. Like I said earlier, I like the better quality speaker cable they sell when I can get it for 20 cents a foot or less.
BillWojo
BillWojo
just dave
vintage rules!
No he probably has a degree in something and I don't.It doesn't mean he can't bullshit people either.
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moewillis
just to recap, i love recapping
Nope I fix your furnace and ac when it's broken. I'll use your direct words this time
Bill: "I have never or will I ever purchase new Monster products. I can't stand a company that makes it's money with marketing BS. Monster sells bs"
Me: "interesting, what type of cables do you use"
Bill: "most of what i have is monster brand"
Me:
.... 
Better?
i think youre funny too
. i'm just ribbing you a little bit 
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loopstick
Lunatic Member
If Bruce Bisson does have a degree in anything it seems to be one of the internet's best kept secrets. This is the most I could dig up (attached).
absolon
Super Member
I'd be just as interested in seeing any real proof that it is true.