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Monster Z series Z1 cables?

aramirez626

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I bought some speakers a while back and the seller included these cables. They are pretty thick and sturdy looking but I never used them since I had speaker cables. There is a hatred of Monster out there for some reason, and since the seller gave me these cables for free, I didn’t think them being of much value. I did test them out but didn’t notice any major difference, perhaps I am just a novice and can’t tell. I guess my question is if anyone has experience with these cables and has heard a sound difference at all.
 
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Google reveals these are quality speaker wire. This doesn't mean you will hear a difference vis a vis other wire, as have indicated. Anyway, free is always good and in this case, better.
 
Most likely they are pretty good cables.

Some people don't like Monster because of their lawsuits against other companies who wanted or did use the word monster in their name.


Borrowed from Wiki...
By 2009, the company had made 190 filings with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.[15] Most filings were to delay potentially infringing trademark applications so Monster could study them. Some were formal oppositions[14] and about 30 resulted in lawsuits.[15][16][17] Most lawsuits were settled with non-disclosed terms.[15] Critics and defendants say that Monster is too aggressive in pursuing trademark protections against companies that do not have confusingly similar products and that it is trying to own a common word, not protect a brand. Monster representatives say they are doing what most "premium" brands do to protect their marks and that their products include things like clothes, mints and music.[15][16]

In the 2000s, Monster had legal disputes over its trademarks with the Discovery Channel for its show Monster Garage.[14] Monster also had trademark disputes with Bally Gaming International over its slot machines, Monster Slots, with Hansen Beverage Co. for its Monster Energy drink, and the Chicago Bears, who use the nickname "Monsters of the Midway".[16] Other trademark disputes include a 2001[18] lawsuit against The Walt Disney Company for products related to the film Monsters, Inc.,[15] and a claim against an online used clothing retailer, MonsterVintage LLC.[15] In 2004, Monster filed a complaint about the trademark application from Snow Monsters, a video website with skiing content for kids. The Snow Monsters owner initiated a lawsuit against Monster pre-emptively.[14] It has also had a trademark dispute with the job site, Monster.com.[16]

In 2006 Monster brought a suit against Monster Mini Golf, a company selling franchise Mini Golf locations throughout the US. After an unsuccessful legal mediation, Monster Mini Golf launched a grassroots campaign against Monster Cable on the Internet. As a result, Monster received more than 200 complaints from the public. Monster Cable dropped the lawsuit and agreed to pay up to $200,000 of Monster Mini Golf's legal fees.[15] In 2009 Monster Cable CEO Noel Lee said on Fox Business that the company has had to balance their trademark protection efforts with the public's point-of-view.[19]
 
Hopefully Moster Cable fired their legal team. I strongly doubt that anyone is dumb enough to think Monster energy drinks are made by the same company that makes high-end speaker wire.
 
Noel Lee's son basically gave the company away in a business deal, which couldn't have happened to a more deserving bunch of greedy individuals selling crappy products. They are currently trying to reinvent themselves selling pro gear cables and lighting solutions.
 
I had the Z2 series. The copper wire was corroded thru the entire length of the cables. Complete crap. They are now recycled. Perhaps someone in the future can enjoy an atom or 2 of the original copper.

P.S., Exotic cables are pretty much a waste of time and money. I am now exclusively KnuKonceptz wire. 12awg, very fine strand and ultra flexible.
 
P.S., Exotic cables are pretty much a waste of time and money. I am now exclusively KnuKonceptz wire. 12awg, very fine strand and ultra flexible.

You came to your conclusion based on the Monster cables alone? If not, what other brands/models have you tried?
 
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Asking for pertinent information is a trap!?! I can only suppose some don't wish to expand their audio knowledge, which is most unfortunate.
 
Nah. Just the old "cables make no difference" vs. "cables make all the difference, and I can totally hear it" argument brewing. Again. There are ardent believers on both sides, and neither is going to have their minds changed via argument on an internet message board.
 
Hmmmm....ok. Doesn't look like we're going to get an answer anyway.

Not everyone is up at 11 o'clock at night, so calm down.

If you re-read my post, my go to brand is now Knukonceptz. http://www.knukonceptz.com/home-the...ire/sp/kord-ultra-flex-12-gauge-speaker-wire/

I have tried other cables from plain old lamp cord to Beldon wire (way too stiff) to Canare, even Radio Shack wire. I pretty much go by the way the wire survives the test of time (corrosion wise), how flexible it is, the gauge size (I like 12awg 'cause it fits my BFA Banana connectors best) and the ease of cutting the insulation. They also seem to deliver the signal to the speakers (like all other cables do).

How's that.
 
BTW, the Monster cable was so big, heavy and bulky, the only thing it did was to support an ego. In the real world, they were so heavy, they deformed their own banana jacks so I periodically had to replace them. I had 2 sets of 15 footers for bi-amping my Martin-Logan reQuests from my Sunfire amp. In the end, it was a tremendous waste of money on my part. Not all lessons are in the classroom.
 
Not everyone is up at 11 o'clock at night, so calm down.

If you re-read my post, my go to brand is now Knukonceptz. http://www.knukonceptz.com/home-the...ire/sp/kord-ultra-flex-12-gauge-speaker-wire/

I have tried other cables from plain old lamp cord to Beldon wire (way too stiff) to Canare, even Radio Shack wire. I pretty much go by the way the wire survives the test of time (corrosion wise), how flexible it is, the gauge size (I like 12awg 'cause it fits my BFA Banana connectors best) and the ease of cutting the insulation. They also seem to deliver the signal to the speakers (like all other cables do).

How's that.

Ok, but none of those are exotic cable, so your blanket statement about being a waste of time and money has no basis.
 
I feel vindicated in my use of the "It's a Trap!" meme. I can spot someone who is eager to take offense, and spoiling from a fight, from a mile away.
 
I feel vindicated in my use of the "It's a Trap!" meme. I can spot someone who is eager to take offense, and spoiling from a fight, from a mile away.

So, you think a post with a blanket statement such as the one in question should be taken at face value, no details required? How does that help anyone make an informed conclusion?
 
Ok, but none of those are exotic cable, so your blanket statement about being a waste of time and money has no basis.

Yes it does. The fricken Monster cables cost like $299-maybe $399 a set. That's $600-800 for a sad bunch of copper, now happily replaced by something anyone can afford and it puts a smile on my face. BTW, my statement wasn't for the world, it was for what happened at my house, and I will never spend such foolish money on such a foolish product like "speaker cable" (exotic or not), ever again.
 
So, you think a post with a blanket statement such as the one in question should be taken at face value, no details required? How does that help anyone make an informed conclusion?

I don't understand that statement. Otherwise everyone on AK should stop posting. You can spend what ever you want on what ever you want. If it makes you happy, then go for it.
 
i had either the z1 or z3, I'm not sure. Compared to other cables I've used there was a noticeable, but no bad, rolloff. in my system. But heck for free maybe it won't be noticeable in your system.
 
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