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Motorcycle with no baffles.

HiFiCanada

HiFiCanada

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Motorcycle's running without baffles makes them so darn loud that I can't even hear what people are telling me inside my own house with the windows closed.
It seems that they get away with it and there is no law enforcement to get those ^%$$#% to put their baffles back in , yet a number of years ago I was pulled over to get my muffler fixed, and that was not even close to being as loud as what a motorcycle is.
So, I wounder what this motorcycle guy is thinking, that we all need to hear the sound his loud motorcycle.:screwy:

The plate on those bikes are to small to get the number, but I am trying,I can hear him coming and will have my 100-400mm Canon L series lens hooked on camera, sitting on the table, so I can grab it fast and catch him, and get that plate number,like I did a few years ago.

It's just a matter of time, for this guy.:mad:

Sorry for my Rant
 
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yeah I don't get that, I also got a fix it ticket a few years back. yet motorcycles and modified pipes are just fine.
 
I just assume their fathers didn't pay enough attention to them when they were kids. --or maybe it was their mothers. :scratch2:
 
Most motorcycle riders would argue that loud = safe. Cycles aren't as easy as cars to see when you're making that quick lane change, hence the "enhanced audio" just might prevent you from wiping one of these guys off the road. Not saying the noise doesn't irritate me, but I can see where they're coming from.
 
skibjr said:
Most motorcycle riders would argue that loud = safe. Cycles aren't as easy as cars to see when you're making that quick lane change, hence the "enhanced audio" just might prevent you from wiping one of these guys off the road. Not saying the noise doesn't irritate me, but I can see where they're coming from.
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I agree there's something to the "loud pipes saves lives" argument. But still.....I don't assume safety is their primary motivation.
 
The problem is with the law-enforcement officers. They tend to favor Harley's and turn a blind eye. They also seem to favor pickups where I live and only enforce bumper-height regulations capriciously. They also favor Corvettes when it comes to enforcing front-license-plate requirements.

Our DMV laws are clear that any modification to any exhaust system that makes it louder is a violation of the law and will be cause for failing inspection. It's gotten so bad around here that certain roads and private developments are closed to ALL motorcycles because of the loud-pipes crowd.

It's never about safety, it's really about "small members". Saying "loud pipes save lives" is a crock of sh*t. No one can hear you inside their car and if they can hear your loud pipes they have no idea where you're coming from. Use you head and your eyes and ride defensively. Auxiliary lights help far more than loud pipes. Most motorcycle-car encounters are the driver turning in front of an oncoming bike and saying they didn't see it. Your loud noise behind you won't help the dumb-ass turning in front of you see you any better.

Helmets save lives and so do seat belts but it says a lot about our society when we have to pass laws to protect the stupid actions of others against themselves. ABATE might target me for saying so but every helmet-less dumbass who drops his straight-pipe Harley at 30-mph and gives himself a concussion without health-insurance is causing my health insurance and my auto insurance costs to skyrocket. It's not a victimless crime or a violation of personal freedom any more than regulating smoking or penalizing poor fuel economy (remember our war efforts in the middle east).

I've been a motorcyclist for over forty years. If I could break the speed limit with the same impunity that these non-DOT helmet-wearing, straight-pipe sporting ape-hanger riders do in my state then I could get to work that much quicker. But I get caught. And if I'm going twenty-over or anything over 80-mph regardless of the speed-limit, then I'm guilty of a misdemeanor with possibility of jail-time in my state. They cause road closings, increased insurance costs, and violate my privacy rights as much as someone smoking next to me in a theater does. And they get to keep doing it with no fear of consequence. :twak:

Forgive me one of my favorite rants . . . it's Father's Day! I wish every dad here a very happy one. Go for a ride, quietly, and with your headlight on! :thmbsp:
 
In my area, I see MANY Harley Riders having LOUD motorcycles. One day, I stopped at an intersection in my stock Boulevard. The Harley rider pulled up next to me. At first, I felt "Great, now my ears are going to hurt" because I saw the word "Harley Davidson" and having very short pipe. But it sounded quiet while stopped so I wasn't sure. As soon as the light was GREEN, that snotty Harley rider took off either full throttle or just very heavy on the throttle. My ears were burning. That's when I started saying, "I HATE THE HARLEYS." Honestly, I like the Harley bikes. My Uncle have a very nice Harley. I just hate the attitude along with it and also being so LOUD. I know other brands been modified but I just "SEE" more Harleys like that in my area.

I KNOW there has to be a law in CA about this but they don't seem to enforce it either enough or at all. From researching and going to training school, loud pipes DON'T SAVE LIVES!!!!! That idea is a pile of turd. In fact, someone made a remark, "Find another excuse for having those loud pipes."

Those who have LOUD pipes are starving for attention. Well, they got my attention. Despised one. It's about respect that is sorely needed in this society.
 
Well, what really gets me with this guy is that he has to have it wide open, all down my street, and wide open all the time.
I can hear him going through the other end of town.
Now, I got other neighbours , that have them , but at least they idle it down when getting home.

I don't believe that loud motorcycles saves lives, the loud sound comes from the back until he gets pretty close and traveling at that speed, it's to late, speed kills.
 
No brand of motorcycle has a monopoly on loud pipes.

I've seen and heard all brands with loud pipes and all of them can be annoying.

I believe that most of it is a "look at me" type of thing.
 
I read an article once that said one of the reasons we are sensitive to this kind of noise pollution, is that motorbikes such as these emit 'infrasound' (very low frequency sound). This infrasound does something to your brain and the result is extreme - almost irrational irritation.

The fact that these motorcyclists have the bare faced effrontery to do this, as they MUST know the whole neighbourhood can hear it, adds to the annoyance.

Good luck with the camera :thmbsp:
 
Sorry, bikers, but I HATE loud motorcycles. Especially when they're just sitting still and revving up.
 
I also dislike the loud pipes. However, I suspect it's something like smoking cigarettes (which I used to do). Smokers honestly think their smoke smells good (I did). They have no idea that others find it disgustingly stinky. Same for the loud pipes. Those who ride them have become both accustomed to it and like it. They really don't see why it's a problem for others.

Between loud pipes on motorcycles, smokers coagulating around the front of a building so you have to walk the gauntlet holding your breath to get in or out, and morons with the boom-boom rolling bass boxes playing rap music, I'll take the loud pipes, though.

I saw a guy catch his trunk-mounted amplifiers on fire in the parking lot of a local swap meet recently. Car burned. I laughed like hell. Too bad, so sad. Moron.
 
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Problem with the minority that ride around with loud pipes, is that the local communities paint with a wide brush, and assume that ALL motorcycle riders are rude and inconsiderate?


Steve
 
BMWCCA said:
The problem is with the law-enforcement officers. They tend to favor Harley's and turn a blind eye. They also seem to favor pickups where I live and only enforce bumper-height regulations capriciously. They also favor Corvettes when it comes to enforcing front-license-plate requirements.:
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I can't speak for every LEO, but I do not favor anything that is annoyingly loud. I cannot begin to state how many traffic citations I've written to loud bikes, loud trucks, lighting issues with trucks, improper lic. plate display on bikes, height and fender guard issues on trucks, blacked out windows ( tint ) etc....Bikes tend to be a generation of which I'm from. The trucks tend to be the younger kids, running around in huge jacked up diesel trucks etc. and they dont even have a trailer of any sort to pull. Just trying to make a statement I suppose. I understand fully the desire to make your car / truck "your" way, to your liking. But not at the expense of every other citizen who is driving or enjoying the peace at their own home. I overlook TONS of violations. Not everyone knows they have a light out, or little stuff like that. But when a truck is jacked up so high that its lights blind the piss out of you at a light, or a bike clearly is so loud that it just about "scares" the other motorists when it passes, it's time to put 'em on the curb. People can be their own worst enemy. I don't feel bad either for issuing a citation, as they arent a victim of circumstance, they created the problem and hoped to pull it off w/o being caught.

And yes, I happen to be a motorcycle rider. I have not altered my exhaust etc. in any way. I ride with respect to other motorists. I happen to ride a crotch rocket. We also have a bad reputation. Wheelies, Mach 1 speeds, weaving in and out etc. I do not favor them at all. Those who ride that way have caused the problem themselves. Noone else is to blame.
 
botrytis said:
Also, Harleys are the only motorcycles that seem to be out of tune when running.
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Does it sound like an out of tune engine because the cylinders fire in an irregular pattern that is unique to H-D?

See this page for one explanation on the cylinder firing sequence.

With factory exhaust (baffles) the H-D engine will always sound a bit raspier than Japanese made V-twin engines firing at regular intervals.

As to the OP's statement, I agree that too loud is too loud, whether it's a street legal drag car, motorcycle or monster stereo enhanced Hi-Riser donk. And most likely an attempt for attention or strong emotional reaction from others.
 
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I ride a Harley Davidson, it is louder than the majority of other stock street bikes, but it doesn't sound like what you are describing here. I like to consider other people out there as well. Big problem is too many people have their own agenda while driving and don't pay attention, period!
The best solution I know is; Instead of telling someone who rides a motorcycle how dangerous it is, look twice before making turns, before changing lanes, or pulling out of a driveway. Look at what is in front of you before you don't stop in time, stay on your side of the road...especially in corners. Don't follow too closley, keep your eyes on the road and off your cell phone.
These are the things that truly could be life or death for anyone riding a motorcycle. Then there would be no excuse period for the loud pipes. And Enforce the law.
 
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