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Motorola 1959 Turntable - Model sk36m

pc9456

pc9456

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Good evening, I am very excited about the possibility of finding help on this thing - I had a moto turntable gifted to me which I took apart to clean and lubricate, when trying to put it all back together, I have forgotten where 2 of the springs go in the turntable. Does anyone know where I could find a service manual for the turntable itself that would show an assembly guide/schematic? Even pictures of a similar one may help.

Thank you ahead of time for the help!
 
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pc9456 said:
Good evening, I am very excited about the possibility of finding help on this thing - I had a moto turntable gifted to me which I took apart to clean and lubricate, when trying to put it all back together, I have forgotten where 2 of the springs go in the turntable. Does anyone know where I could find a service manual for the turntable itself that would show an assembly guide/schematic? Even pictures of a similar one may help.

Thank you ahead of time for the help!
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Here's the Sams for the amp in case you need it. It's a pdf which can be enlarged to show detail. The Sams for the turntable is too large of a file to upload directly. I've sent you a private message - see your 'Inbox' in the upper right corner.
 

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I should have thought of that….here you go a picture of what I have left.
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Should've made note of where everything went prior to rippin' into it. Now you're in deep shiite, even the platter bearing didn't make it back in place. Lesson learned! May be a Sams manual available for that model.
 
Catmanboo said:
Should've made note of where everything went prior to rippin' into it. Now you're in deep shiite, even the platter bearing didn't make it back in place. Lesson learned! May be a Sams manual available for that model.
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I know, I'm kicking myself for not taking more pictures along the way!
 
Whats the actual changer? I'm guessing VM 1200 series?

The large washer and the holy washer are part of the platter bearing assembly. Should be one more large washer to make up the full stack. May or may not be stuck to the bottom of the platter gear or down around the center post. There should also be some bearing balls in the holy washer if they are not captive. Most VM machines I worked on had them captive in a sort of metal cage deal, but this one may be loose balls like a Garrard.

If the Sams from @FlaCharlie doesn't get you what you need, I may have some pics from a 1200 teardown that may or may not be of some use. The ones I've done were not Motorola specific but most of the mechanism will be the same.
 
gadget73 said:
Whats the actual changer? I'm guessing VM 1200 series?
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I would have guessed VM too since they were the largest supplier of turntables and changers. But Motorola (at least in this particular console model) used a Monarch. I'd never heard of that brand, but then I don't know much about turntables.

Here's a few pages from the Sams. Not sure if it's similar to the VM 1200 or not.Monarch UA8 p1.png
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Monarch UA8 p3.png
 
Birmingham Sound Reproducers = BSR, Monarch is the model. Never worked on one of those. Still willing to wager the flat washer and holy washer are the platter bearing assembly though.
 
gadget73 said:
Birmingham Sound Reproducers = BSR, Monarch is the model. Still willing to wager the flat washer and holy washer are the platter bearing assembly though.
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Holy washer-:rflmao: what denomination?
You are 100% spot-on! When I saw pic of his leftovers, I was surprised to see that (2) pieces left out. Usually, the geared cam wheel has to come out before those 3 bits can be removed. (Flat-ground hardened washer, bearing carrier, & another flat-ground one on top) .I recently picked up a BSR cheapo changer at a local thrift store for $8 that was totally seized, as in NOTHING but the record arm would budge. Ripped into it, first with 80 watts of hot iron on platter spindle to free that up, liquid wrench in a few more places, got it mostly functioning but for record size selection. Dual stylus for 78 & lp, examination showed both sides fine. Now I can properly play 78's that I bring home for a spin-clean session. Tt is bsr, base is marked as Toshiba, still trying to figure that one out.
 
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Whichever denomination gets sticky and loses it's parts.

probably branded and sold as Toshiba to go with some stereo line they were making. That was pretty common practice, rather than design your own changer you just hired the job out to one of the people who already made one and just had them badge it for you. Sometimes they actually branded the changer with custom paint and logos, sometimes it would be like Made For Whomever With Love From BSR. and then sometimes it had absolutely no mention of who ordered it. I assume that was the cheapest option.
 
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