MVP 861 Upgrade could there be an 871 in February?

jimmyc1996

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I believe the 831 came out in 1999 ,the 851 in 2003 and 861 in 2004.
Could there be a 871 in 2007?

Jimmyc
 
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Please let it be a HDMI 1.3 "transport-only" DVD/Bluray player, with only a pair of analog stereo audio outputs for the stereo-only guys like me - I would be second in line to buy it (after master lu of course!) ;)
 
I'm pretty sure Mac is steering clear of Blu-ray.

But, if they make it, I'll give it a whirl. :yes:
 
masterlu said:
I'm pretty sure Mac is steering clear of Blu-ray.

Hi Ivan
Other than Blue Ray would there be any other reason for Mac to upgrade the 861?
Jimmyc
 
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masterlu said:
I'm pretty sure Mac is steering clear of Blu-ray.

But, if they make it, I'll give it a whirl. :yes:
Why? Looks like they are going to win and now they finally figured out how to produce 50GB discs.

Standard DVD looks "soft" even compared to highly compressed 1080i digital TV.
 
I guess I will wait for the 891 ver., Blu-Ray + HD DVD in one box.

I will start saving $10 per day from now on, so don't mind the long wait. :D

Thomas
 
I guess I will wait for the 891 ver., Blu-Ray + HD DVD in one box.
I don't think that will happen. Technically they are very different and require different laser systems due to the different data layer depths. So it will be one or the other but not both.
 
PHC1 said:
I don't think that will happen. Technically they are very different and require different laser systems due to the different data layer depths. So it will be one or the other but not both.
I heard LG will have a player that does both. If LG can do it.. ;)
 
I don't think Mac will pick up either one.
I think long term, the future of movies lies in internet streaming. Imagine having a virtually unlimited library of any movie you want just a click away. I think the Netflix's and Blockbuster's of the future will offer that kind of service, sort of like the music revolution that iTunes started. As long as there will be no compressing and no loss of quality, there would be really no reason to buy DVD's or own dedicated playback hardware. If iTunes or any of the other streaming music services like Pandora offered their songs in at least a "lossless" format, I don't think many of us would be buying as much CD's anymore.

Say what you want about Sony and Blu-ray and the fact that they loose like $300 on every PS3 console they sell, I think they are very smart for doing it. With the popularity of video games in every household that has children and even adults that still play video games, the ability to play the Blu-ray through PS3 and proliferation of high-def plasma and lcd TV's, they sure will "hook" many on blu-ray. Sony being a huge media company, will no doubt sell their share of Blu-ray content in the future. Watching my first Blu-ray movie on my son's PS3 has me thinking of a new plasma TV and a blu-ray player already!:yes:

In the meantime, McIntosh would sell less and less of their MVP products if they don't offer at least one of the formats going into the future. I am sure the competitors will. I would be willing to bet that Meridian, Arcam, Classe and maybe Ayre will offer a universal player with one of the formats in the near future.

I heard LG will have a player that does both. If LG can do it..
Given the premium companies like McIntosh charge for their products, the more robust and higher quality transports/lasers would probably make it more difficult than a mass produced lesser quality product like LG to incorporate both technologies without some quality compromises.
 
PHC1 said:
I think long term, the future of movies lies in internet streaming. Imagine having a virtually unlimited library of any movie you want just a click away. I think the Netflix's and Blockbuster's of the future will offer that kind of service, sort of like the music revolution that iTunes started. As long as there will be no compressing and no loss of quality, there would be really no reason to buy DVD's or own dedicated playback hardware. If iTunes or any of the other streaming music services like Pandora offered their songs in at least a "lossless" format, I don't think many of us would be buying as much CD's anymore.

Say what you want about Sony and Blu-ray and the fact that they loose like $300 on every PS3 console they sell, I think they are very smart for doing it. With the popularity of video games in every household that has children and even adults that still play video games, the ability to play the Blu-ray through PS3 and proliferation of high-def plasma and lcd TV's, they sure will "hook" many on blu-ray. Sony being a huge media company, will no doubt sell their share of Blu-ray content in the future. Watching my first Blu-ray movie on my son's PS3 has me thinking of a new plasma TV and a blu-ray player already!:yes:

In the meantime, McIntosh would sell less and less of their MVP products if they don't offer at least one of the formats going into the future. I am sure the competitors will. I would be willing to bet that Meridian, Arcam, Classe and maybe Ayre will offer a universal player with one of the formats in the near future.

Given the premium companies like McIntosh charge for their products, the more robust and higher quality transports/lasers would probably make it more difficult than a mass produced lesser quality product like LG to incorporate both technologies without some quality compromises.

We are a long ways from this happening. The bandwidth issue alone will take years to implement. As well as most if not all middle to older individuals prefer to tangibly own or hold something they have purchased. I for one prefer to hold the DVD/BD/HD DVD that I just paid $20-$30 for. Now for the younger generation they could care less so I definately see this in the future but not anytime soon.

Just think of the size hard drive it would take to put your complete DVD collection on not including your HD DVD and/or BD at 30-50 mb each contain.
 
I think long term, the future of movies lies in internet streaming. Imagine having a virtually unlimited library of any movie you want just a click away. I think the Netflix's and Blockbuster's of the future will offer that kind of service, sort of like the music revolution that iTunes started.

I think this is correct, we are headed for an era where "content is king". And it may not be as far off in the future as some may think. For example, Verizon is bundling phone, broadband internet, and TV (including HD) over its FIOS fiber service to the home in selected areas. FIOS is not very pervasive right now but that should change. And, there will likely be competitive technologies as well. The core of the networks that will transport these services will look more like the internet than any phone network.
 
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