My cantilevers always angle to the right!

[arcorob]

Okay ..lets take it by the numbers

Not being a know it all but when I have issues, I go back to basics

1) Pretend its first time setup - that means get a level and MAKE SURE the table, the platter especially is dead level N, S, E and West
2) Before doing the arm, check the cart in the headshell...are the screws the same distance/tightness? Uneven screws can cause the cart to be angled in the headshell
3) Mount the cart and rebalance the arm VTF 1.75
4) Align the cart
5) Set the anti-skate for 2
6) Now, start a record and CUE to the lead in and lower using the cue (don't do it slow, let it do it itself). Does it jerk inward to the music ? If so, either there is a bind or anti-skate is not high enough
7) Still pulling ? Raise the anti-skate high as I originally suggested..what does it do ?

If nothing above fixes, check the wires as they leave the tonearm..is there enough slack (I would imagine so or it would PULL the other way)

Let us know..and btw..if this is your table, very nice

 

[dodog]

Well, this is timely. Please see my thread about MY brand-new AT OC9ML/II.

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?p=6647847#post6647847

This might all be a QC problem with Audio Technica.

 

[arcorob]

i would agree except...

Well, this is timely. Please see my thread about MY brand-new AT OC9ML/II.

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?p=6647847#post6647847

This might all be a QC problem with Audio Technica.

His other carts are doing the same thing...

 

[jkilla]

Not being a know it all but when I have issues, I go back to basics

1) Pretend its first time setup - that means get a level and MAKE SURE the table, the platter especially is dead level N, S, E and West
2) Before doing the arm, check the cart in the headshell...are the screws the same distance/tightness? Uneven screws can cause the cart to be angled in the headshell
3) Mount the cart and rebalance the arm VTF 1.75
4) Align the cart
5) Set the anti-skate for 2
6) Now, start a record and CUE to the lead in and lower using the cue (don't do it slow, let it do it itself). Does it jerk inward to the music ? If so, either there is a bind or anti-skate is not high enough
7) Still pulling ? Raise the anti-skate high as I originally suggested..what does it do ?

If nothing above fixes, check the wires as they leave the tonearm..is there enough slack (I would imagine so or it would PULL the other way)

Let us know..and btw..if this is your table, very nice

arcorob! Thanks!

I just went through the steps, even at anti-skate at 0, the cantilever doesn't pull "in", I'm not sure if it's because the suspension is already bent too far to be offset by the pulling in of the disc

I have a theory as to what's causing it but I'm still testing it out.

Is there anyway I can twist the OC9 back in? I really don't want to touch that delicate delicate golden cantilever

my table's the same except it's a dark wood finish instead of this light shade

 

[jkilla]

I'm currently doing some testing with one of my carts with the "angled" cantilever problem.

MY DL-110 which I actually took a pair of tweezers and twisted the cantilever+diamond straight again. If the problem is the table, by playing enough records, it should re-occur? We well see soon enough...

 

[fiddlefye]

Not being a know it all but when I have issues, I go back to basics

1) Pretend its first time setup - that means get a level and MAKE SURE the table, the platter especially is dead level N, S, E and West
2) Before doing the arm, check the cart in the headshell...are the screws the same distance/tightness? Uneven screws can cause the cart to be angled in the headshell
3) Mount the cart and rebalance the arm VTF 1.75
4) Align the cart
5) Set the anti-skate for 2
6) Now, start a record and CUE to the lead in and lower using the cue (don't do it slow, let it do it itself). Does it jerk inward to the music ? If so, either there is a bind or anti-skate is not high enough
7) Still pulling ? Raise the anti-skate high as I originally suggested..what does it do ?

If nothing above fixes, check the wires as they leave the tonearm..is there enough slack (I would imagine so or it would PULL the other way)

Let us know..and btw..if this is your table, very nice

That is quite a nice table. I used to have one. Not obvious is that one can adjust the VTA as well, very useful. They are really very nice to set up as I recall. It does have auto-shut off as well.

I wouldn't trust things to be level without using a level to check this. I usually use one about 8" long and check both the plinth and the platter. That is the first step I'd take, then get on with the rest that have been suggested.

 

[fiddlefye]

arcorob! Thanks!

I just went through the steps, even at anti-skate at 0, the cantilever doesn't pull "in", I'm not sure if it's because the suspension is already bent too far to be offset by the pulling in of the disc

I have a theory as to what's causing it but I'm still testing it out.

Is there anyway I can twist the OC9 back in? I really don't want to touch that delicate delicate golden cantilever

my table's the same except it's a dark wood finish instead of this light shade

Mine was dark shaded as well. Hey, where in this country are you located? You start making me wonder if that isn't the table I had.

 

[jkilla]

Mine was dark shaded as well. Hey, where in this country are you located? You start making me wonder if that isn't the table I had.

Apparently it was a model marketed quite a lot in Canada, and I've seen a large number of them being bought and sold over here.

I'm in Toronto, but my table was actually shipped (with great care, I might add) from British Columbia

 

[DustyOldPile]

I once dated a man who had a...well, the same problem.

 

[fiddlefye]

Apparently it was a model marketed quite a lot in Canada, and I've seen a large number of them being bought and sold over here.

I'm in Toronto, but my table was actually shipped (with great care, I might add) from British Columbia

Just wondered as I sold mine to a guy in Niagara area a couple of years back. I'd still have it if I hadn't had a Technics SP-15 land in my lap, gratis. Two good DD decks I didn't need and the SP-15 does 78s as well. Hope you get it sorted out with no bother. It is a good-sounding deck and really nice to work with. Did you find the VTA set up yet? I bet half the people who owned them never knew it was there as it is not exactly obvious. More like "artfully concealed".

 

[fiddlefye]

I once dated a man who had a...well, the same problem.

Not uncommon, or so I hear tell. Matter of "dressing".

 

[jkilla]

Just wondered as I sold mine to a guy in Niagara area a couple of years back. I'd still have it if I hadn't had a Technics SP-15 land in my lap, gratis. Two good DD decks I didn't need and the SP-15 does 78s as well. Hope you get it sorted out with no bother. It is a good-sounding deck and really nice to work with. Did you find the VTA set up yet? I bet half the people who owned them never knew it was there as it is not exactly obvious. More like "artfully concealed".

Yup I adjust the VTA everytime I change up a headshell+cart combo. I've got like 10 all ready to swap in

 

[arcorob]

Jkilla..advice

arcorob! Thanks!

I just went through the steps, even at anti-skate at 0, the cantilever doesn't pull "in", I'm not sure if it's because the suspension is already bent too far to be offset by the pulling in of the disc

I have a theory as to what's causing it but I'm still testing it out.

Is there anyway I can twist the OC9 back in? I really don't want to touch that delicate delicate golden cantilever

my table's the same except it's a dark wood finish instead of this light shade

I have had MC stylus move off center due to improper anti skate. It has a suspension and being new will be a little stiff so it can stay in that position

VERY VERY gently, move the needle to the straight position with your finger. No more pressure than you would expect when it is lowered on an album. It should stay straight. If it doesn't, if it just goes back to canted, then its return or warranty time. THESE CAN HAVE SUSPENSION FAILURES and AT takes care of them.

Now if it does stay straight, before you use it...

Level that table.
ANTI -skate needs to go HIGHER , not lower. Zero is NO anti-skate causing the arm to pull IN and the needle to slant OUT like its doing.

I have actually done this myself with my AT150MLx..I tend to be stingy with anti-skate and these micro-lines are sensitive. So I gently moved it back straight, RAISED anti-skate ABOVE the VTF (VTF 1.50, anti-skate to 2) and she rides straight.

But check that level because if its canted to the left (right side higher) then it will naturally pull inward and make the needle lean out ..

Make sense?

Just in case - Audio Technica Warranty (but if you bought from LP gear start there first)
http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/site/19d7dea0ac05eaa3/index.html

 

[fiddlefye]

Yup I adjust the VTA everytime I change up a headshell+cart combo. I've got like 10 all ready to swap in

The DP 1200 was the first table I'd owned on about 20 years that I could swap heads on. I remember going crazy with it for awhile. Have fun!

 

[jkilla]

I have had MC stylus move off center due to improper anti skate. It has a suspension and being new will be a little stiff so it can stay in that position

VERY VERY gently, move the needle to the straight position with your finger. No more pressure than you would expect when it is lowered on an album. It should stay straight. If it doesn't, if it just goes back to canted, then its return or warranty time. THESE CAN HAVE SUSPENSION FAILURES and AT takes care of them.

Just in case - Audio Technica Warranty (but if you bought from LP gear start there first)
http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/site/19d7dea0ac05eaa3/index.html

It goes right back to canted! Argg.

 

[DustyOldPile]

Not uncommon, or so I hear tell. Matter of "dressing".

Well, let's just say that it probably was a much more offensive phenomenon in regards to turntables than it was in regards to....uh...the other thing. Oh...yeah...YEAH!

 

[arcorob]

Okay...

It goes right back to canted! Argg.

So return or warranty..suspensions fail...DONT blame your table

While you are waiting for the turnaround in cart, you can work on ensuring your table is level, lubed, working, etc....

 

[boreas]

So return or warranty..suspensions fail...DONT blame your table

This has happened to several of his styli.

John

 

[fiddlefye]

Well, let's just say that it probably was a much more offensive phenomenon in regards to turntables than it was in regards to....uh...the other thing. Oh...yeah...YEAH!

I've been informed that a bit of cant in the cantilever can be a very good thing..... under other circumstances as noted.

 

[John James]

Mine always seems to swing to the left.

I once dated a man who had a...well, the same problem.

Not uncommon, or so I hear tell. Matter of "dressing".

Well, let's just say that it probably was a much more offensive phenomenon in regards to turntables than it was in regards to....uh...the other thing. Oh...yeah...YEAH!

I've been informed that a bit of cant in the cantilever can be a very good thing..... under other circumstances as noted.

Were there not stories of Bill Clinton's being angled to the left?:scratch2: