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My Crown D150... when amps were built like brick s#$ and weighed even more!

frankxbe said:
I think the discussion had evolved beyond one Crown product pretty obvious no ?
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I would say devolved. But I'm just here for the entertainment.

btw, Crown XLS 402 during my DJ days. Not a 'phile amp, but certainly good sounding, reliable, heavy and built like a brick Sh#*house and it wasn't near TOTL.
 
E-Stat said:
I would certainly hope so![/quote=E-Stat]


Not at all. Most mainstream professional applications put a high priority on "cost management" for their shareholders.
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Straw man's argument when you consider what a decent Newman or other pro microphone and Huge $50,000 + mixing consoles and lots of other things like $40,000 Sony OLED color grading monitors cost not including a reference studio build I don't think they worry about deciding between a $6,000 audiophile amp or Crown or similar product or Crown I-Tech 5000HD that may cost even more that's not saying a dreadnought McIntosh or Krell would be out of place there at all you just don't usually find them there .
 
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botrytis said:
I find them grainy and crowded sound and not powerful at all. Most audiophiles, I know, don't consider Crown good amps. Now, the vintage collectors, on the other hand, love them.
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Since when did an audiophile have to know anything beyond opening a wallet or hitting the thrifts and classifieds and getting a lucky score the moniker is not a degree after all and presumably a lot of folks founding audiophile device/spkr mfrs aren't E.E.'s or S.E.'s either .... or if they are you sure wouldn't know it by some of the product and marketing surrounding the product :D
 
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Whew....that was a tough one...oh and btw, just found a nice clean D-150...to match my IC-150....can't wait to hear the pair. Total cost 245. for the pair in separate transactions...

First time Crown owner....feel free to critique.


Mike
 
juptonstone said:
This is my Crown D150 with its skin off. The transformer is alnist the same size as a CD jewel box... if you lined about 30 of them up!

Listening to thisvi am transported back to when my older lps were recorded!

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My Belles say hello to Tiny, "hello Tiny".

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Since this thread has been revived . . . I just recently changed my avatar from my kittens sitting on my D150A. The cats are long gone, but I still have the Crown. I also have an XTi800, but I've yet to use it. I got it "on sale", but I just don't need 200 watts per side.

Little trivia: In England, they're sold under the name Amcron, because "Crown" is reserved for the queen.
 
D-150's were OK the 150 A was better. I had two Buit if you want ome moderately heavy tri a DC 300a or heavier PS2a or the much heavier M-600. Of course nothing compares to Mcintosh amps. Ever try to pick up a 275 with the tubes next to your body and not the preferred way with the transformers next to your body.? OR how bout a MC 3500, or MC 2300 from the 70's. If you are really brave a MC 611 or a MC 1.25K. LIke Ampex tape studio machines Mcintosh feels if an amp has handles on it, its portable. Those output transformers for tube stuff and autoformers for SS stuff are not light. Lets see a MC 2300 made in the early 70's weighed 128 lbs. and the current MC 1.25 K weighs 158 lbs. MAkes those Crowns kind of puny. My MC 207's with out autoformers weight close to 85 lbs for a 7 channel amplifier.
 
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E-Stat said:
I would certainly hope so!


Not at all. Most mainstream professional applications put a high priority on "cost management" for their shareholders.
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They also place high importance on that thing called, Reliability. As in revenue is on the line when said amplifier fails, not to mention reputation. When your audiophile darling can achieve good sound and not fail you in that environment, then you have something special.

When yours can deliver high end audiophile performance and sonics, and not fail you, then buy it. Crown was more than fine enough for one Robert Fulton, the Fulton who invented high end audiophile speaker cable (Fulton Wire), the Fulton who gave us the Fulton FMI-80 loudspeaker, and the other high end variants which used it, who had his own record label, as examples. Go Google Fulton Musical Industries. I actually own a pair of Fulton FMI-80 loudspeakers, they give JBL 4311b an honest run for their money.
 
I have a D150A-IOC and it sounded dull and fuzzy. I had it recapped and tuned up and now it sounds great. I used it with a pair of KEF 104aB's for a while in the computer room. Now my dad uses it with a pair of JBL 4311's for his TV system. Still sounds great and crisp. Recapping has improved all 3 of my Crown amps, especially the PSA-2.
 
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