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My Ever-Changing System...

I know a few of you guys follow this thread and enjoy seeing the on-going changes. Well... Here's a couple more changes, and these made a HUGE improvement in overall sound. Loads of dynamics, very very silky smooth treble, lively, natural vocals to die for, powerful, highly detailed and super fast mid-bass, and deep, agile and extended bass (that last one is a real shocker)...

Me, my girlfriend and my oldest brother have been on the road for 15 hours straight today, from 1am to 4pm, from here in central Florida to nearly central Georgia and back again. 880 miles rounds trip! We went to pick up basically brand new Klipsch Heresy III's in walnut. We're all tired as heck. My girlfriend is already in bed asleep, my brother is here in the listening room on the couch out like a light, and I'm about to pass out myself as I've been awake since 5:30am yesterday morning! But I am just too caught up in the sound I'm hearing coming from my system right now.

So I pulled out the NHT 2.9's and put these little Heresy III's on the floor and gave them a listen for a while. While they sounded okay, on their stock risers, it wasn't the sound I was expecting. I then removed the risers and placed these little guys on some little tables that I purchased a while back for those Genesis speakers I was using. Placing the Klipsch's on these tables opened them right up. A large, vast and rather detailed sound stage with plenty of width beyond the speakers, both to the sides and front to back. In either position, they provided impressive bass output, at least down to around 40-45 Hz in my room.

Though bass performance is great with these little guys, I was wanting more, and with great extension. Since the amplifier controls on both of my JL e110 subs are having issues again (2nd time now), I decided to dig out my old trusty Polk Audio PSW505 subs and give them a whirl. I've always connected them with an RCA cable and Y-adapter, but this time I decided to connect them via their speaker inputs (the preferred method of Paul McGowan of PS Audio). So from each Stellar M700 monoblock I am running my old Wireworld Oasis 7 bi-wire cables to feed both input channels on each sub.

Holy frapp!! I have owned these Polk subs for 10+ years, used them a million different ways and not once have I heard them reproduce bass of any kind like they are tonight, being fed from those PS Audio Stellar M700 amps. Deep, tight, fast, tuneful, accurate, detailed, textured, and in living stereo! With one album I was listening to, you can clearly track the bass from the far left and hear it just walk across to the floor to the far right. And acoustic bass, bass drums, etc, etc, follow along cleanly with the Heresy III's.

To top it off, I was going to sell off all of my PS Audio gear and go with something with lower gain and tubes in the preamp stage as I thought that would be a better fit for these super efficient loudspeakers, but not now. The PS Audio Stellar preamp and monoblock amps make these Klipsch Heresy III's sing along with the best of them and the entire setup is deal silent when nothing is playing. In fact, these speakers showcase just what exactly the Stellar stack is really capable of, and I can safely say the Stellar stack is quite capable indeed!

Anyway, on with some pics. Just as a side note, I will be looking for some proper speaker stands for these Heresy's in the near future, but for now, these little tables will do just fine.

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I know a few of you guys follow this thread and enjoy seeing the on-going changes. Well... Here's a couple more changes, and these made a HUGE improvement in overall sound. Loads of dynamics, very very silky smooth treble, lively, natural vocals to die for, powerful, highly detailed and super fast mid-bass, and deep, agile and extended bass (that last one is a real shocker)...

Me, my girlfriend and my oldest brother have been on the road for 15 hours straight today, from 1am to 4pm, from here in central Florida to nearly central Georgia and back again. 880 miles rounds trip! We went to pick up basically brand new Klipsch Heresy III's in walnut. We're all tired as heck. My girlfriend is already in bed asleep, my brother is here in the listening room on the couch out like a light, and I'm about to pass out myself as I've been awake since 5:30am yesterday morning! But I am just too caught up in the sound I'm hearing coming from my system right now.

So I pulled out the NHT 2.9's and put these little Heresy III's on the floor and gave them a listen for a while. While they sounded okay, on their stock risers, it wasn't the sound I was expecting. I then removed the risers and placed these little guys on some little tables that I purchased a while back for those Genesis speakers I was using. Placing the Klipsch's on these tables opened them right up. A large, vast and rather detailed sound stage with plenty of width beyond the speakers, both to the sides and front to back. In either position, they provided impressive bass output, at least down to around 40-45 Hz in my room.

Though bass performance is great with these little guys, I was wanting more, and with great extension. Since the amplifier controls on both of my JL e110 subs are having issues again (2nd time now), I decided to dig out my old trusty Polk Audio PSW505 subs and give them a whirl. I've always connected them with an RCA cable and Y-adapter, but this time I decided to connect them via their speaker inputs (the preferred method of Paul McGowan of PS Audio). So from each Stellar M700 monoblock I am running my old Wireworld Oasis 7 bi-wire cables to feed both input channels on each sub.

Holy frapp!! I have owned these Polk subs for 10+ years, used them a million different ways and not once have I heard them reproduce bass of any kind like they are tonight, being fed from those PS Audio Stellar M700 amps. Deep, tight, fast, tuneful, accurate, detailed, textured, and in living stereo! With one album I was listening to, you can clearly track the bass from the far left and hear it just walk across to the floor to the far right. And acoustic bass, bass drums, etc, etc, follow along cleanly with the Heresy III's.

To top it off, I was going to sell off all of my PS Audio gear and go with something with lower gain and tubes in the preamp stage as I thought that would be a better fit for these super efficient loudspeakers, but not now. The PS Audio Stellar preamp and monoblock amps make these Klipsch Heresy III's sing along with the best of them and the entire setup is deal silent when nothing is playing. In fact, these speakers showcase just what exactly the Stellar stack is really capable of, and I can safely say the Stellar stack is quite capable indeed!

Anyway, on with some pics. Just as a side note, I will be looking for some proper speaker stands for these Heresy's in the near future, but for now, these little tables will do just fine.

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Nice! Makes me want to take my Heresy IIs out and play them again.
 
Nice! Makes me want to take my Heresy IIs out and play them again.

Do it!

In fact, in case you didn't know, Klipsch makes or made a kit that fully upgrades the older Heresy II's to Heresy III's. They include new woofers, new titanium diaphragms for the mids and tweeters, new horns and new crossovers. I believe the kits go for something like $300 each, which is nothing compared to the amount of improvements you get. And let me tell you, the upgrade to the III's is well worth the money.

Put it this way, I have never heard any stock Klipsch Heritage line loudspeaker sound so natural and refined, and also not get harsh or fatiguing. The series III line of Heritage loudspeakers, if the rest of them are anything like these Heresy III's, offer up everything everyone loves about horn speakers without any of the ill side effects from them.

I now see what all of the ranting and raving is all about with these little H3's. They're truly amazing little speakers. Then again, I've also read a few bad reviews about them as well, and clearly those guys had no clue on how to properly set these speaker up and were running less than stellar equipment and cables in front of them.

I was actually very concerned about how the H3's were going to perform with my PS Audio gear considering it's all solid state and Class D amps. I was so much worried about this that I put up a sale ad for the entire PS Audio Stellar package that I have (preamp and both amps) almost a week ago because I "knew" this system was going to be a terrible match for the Klipsch, being all harsh, bright and just overall rough sounding. NOT THE CASE AT ALL! In fact, these speakers show just how much work in voicing and careful tuning of the Stellar line of gear was involved to NOT have them sound solid state or digital. This system very much sounds like it has some tubes somewhere in the signal path, whether it be tubes in the preamp or tubes in the input stage of the amps, or just a tube buffer of some sorts between the preamp and amps. The Stellar gear truly does sound like that, and I am so glad that it does, because now I don't have to sell it all off and be upset that I sold some gear that I worked so hard to finally get.

Now this system is finally getting somewhere!...
 
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Purchased and installed some tube risers (socket savers) to raise the tubes "out" of the chassis. This greatly reduces the internal heat soak in the preamp. Not that that is an issue, but less heat the better I say. Plus it just looks better being able to see the entire tube instead of only half of it.

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Good idea with the socket savers! Looks much better IMO. Any way to get them out without having to take the cover off?

PS - Tube rolling is a fun/pricey rabbit hole.
 
Wow that makes a huge difference, that looks awesome. I would love to spin some Dead and Zappa in your room to see how it all sounds!:rockon::rockon:

I imagine those albums would sound pretty good, though not my cup of tea, so I won't find out unless you show up at my front door with those albums in your hand and really want to hear them. ;)



Good idea with the socket savers! Looks much better IMO. Any way to get them out without having to take the cover off?

PS - Tube rolling is a fun/pricey rabbit hole.

Thank you. Getting them out is a lot easier than I though... The darn things have so much grip they come out with the tubes instead of staying in place. :rolleyes:
 
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What site do you host your pictures from? I cant see any of your pics but see the following://

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I think my security SW might be blocking your host site. Would love to see your stuff.
Thanks..
 
Wow! Just looked through all your variations over the years. Beautiful set ups and I cant imagine any of them sounding poorly. Thanks for the info so that I could look through it all.

How do you feel about the Schiit pre/power amps? I am thinking once I get done spending money on the house I would update to some of their units. I need something not too expensive but decent sounding. I have a couple of their DACs and the Loki unit and have been satisfied with their performance.

Thanks again for helping me get to see your system.
 
Wow! Just looked through all your variations over the years. Beautiful set ups and I cant imagine any of them sounding poorly. Thanks for the info so that I could look through it all.

How do you feel about the Schiit pre/power amps? I am thinking once I get done spending money on the house I would update to some of their units. I need something not too expensive but decent sounding. I have a couple of their DACs and the Loki unit and have been satisfied with their performance.

Thanks again for helping me get to see your system.

Thank you, and you're welcome.

If you're referring to just the systems alone in this thread, that's only roughly 5 years worth. There's another whole 15 to 20 years worth of variations that went on back in the day, including many DIY loudspeaker and subwoofer builds, DIY mods and upgrades to equipment, and all sorts of fun things. ;)

As far as this pile of Schiit is concerned?... Well I love it! I bought into this Schiit years ago when they first came out with the Bifrost. In fact, IIRC, I had to be on a short waiting list in order to get one. Over a short period of time, I upgraded to its fully loaded state, then foolishly sold it after getting the Oppo 105D, which was a mistake (both selling the Bifrost and buying the 105D).

I've had the little Modi phono preamp for the last couple of years now which is dead silent and sounds excellent. And for the Freya+ preamp and Aegir amps, they were are a definite upgrade from the PS Audio Stellar series gear that they replaced. Don't get me wrong, the Stellar stack was great, but it simply doesn't hold a candle to this Schiit stack. Not to mention it's nearly half the cost of that Stellar stack as well.

Even WITHOUT the tube stage engaged, the Schiit gear provides much better stage width, depth and height, stereo imaging seems to be a bit more precise, there's more inner detail, and the blackest of black background that I have ever heard in a system. There's absolutely nothing there, no hiss, no buzz, no static, no nothing... Even with the volume cranked all the way up and my ears right up against the tweeter horns in my Klipsch Heresy III's, which are rated at 99 dB @ 1w/1m! It's literally like the system is off, it's that deal silent. Even the Stellar gear had a slight hiss that you could hear sitting on the end of the couch closest to the right speaker. This system has a very clean and clear, refined sound to it, which a lot of that has to do with the amps.

With the tube stage turned on, there's the ever so slightest amount of hiss coming from the tweeters. Again, this is with the volume cranked all the way up and my ear against the tweeter horn. If there's any light ambient noise in the room, you won't even hear this hiss with your face in the speakers! That's how quiet the tube stage is in this Freya + preamp. Then there's the sound stage width, depth and height, which grows that much more with the tubes glowing. Everything sounds silky smooth the way I imagine with would in real life. It has body and soul, it has rhythm, it has dynamics, and it has a natural fullness in the midrange with plenty of detail and texture.

And keep in mind, this is with only using the built-in DAC in my Bluesound Node 2. It's not even the newest Node 2i. Once I sell my Sonus Faber speakers, I'll be able to purchase the latest and greatest Schiit Bifrost DAC, and run it balanced into the Freya +. That ought to be a treat once that happens!
 
Well I think I will have to take that as a resounding and positive recommendation for their gear! :cool: Thanks.

My system will never be as complete or as nice as yours or so many other nice systems I see on AK, but I do enjoy having better sound in the house. Now I am looking forward to procuring a new pre-amp and amp to replace an old HK receiver that needs to be retired. Cant afford much as I am on a fixed income now and much of that goes to keeping the Better Half alive. As long as I don't take too many expensive projects at once I can usually purchase things we need or want, just takes planning and time.

Thanks again for all the good information.
 
Well I think I will have to take that as a resounding and positive recommendation for their gear! :cool: Thanks.

My system will never be as complete or as nice as yours or so many other nice systems I see on AK, but I do enjoy having better sound in the house. Now I am looking forward to procuring a new pre-amp and amp to replace an old HK receiver that needs to be retired. Cant afford much as I am on a fixed income now and much of that goes to keeping the Better Half alive. As long as I don't take too many expensive projects at once I can usually purchase things we need or want, just takes planning and time.

Thanks again for all the good information.

You're welcome sir.

You say your system will never be as nice as others... I thought the same thing about my system, though as you say in your last sentence, it just takes careful planning. Most everything I've bought over the years for the audio system has come from tax returns and selling off old gear to buy other gear.
 
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