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My intro - and advice is sought

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Dima R.

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I got a simple player, Jensen Jta230. I did not buy it, was an accidental gift - a trophy.

But, I have been using it for few years and got into a vinyl listening habit and am loving it

So, looking for advice on upgrade.

- Would i really experience an upgrade if i buy a $300-$400 player? Or should i look for a higher price range?

- my other setup is Klipch R15M pair of bookshelfs.. with an old Onkyo amp...

I also have a pair of very old Bowers and Wilkins floor standing speakers, that i don't use for space limitation, but may consider if advisable.

What would you recommend
 
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Unequivocally, get a new player. And, if I'm a delve into semantics, I would start calling it a turntable. People will know what you mean more easily. Good luck.
 
Thank you, for replying ..
It seems, that anywhere I am looking at, the "AT-LP120" always comes up. Like that popular kid in school. Always praised, always on the front pages.
And, I am already considering it. Researched, put a bookmark as a candidate.
However, I am also considering other options. For instance, seem the consideration that a belt drive is better for music listening (my primary and the only goal) is a reasonable input.
I am looking, at "Fluance RT80" and "Fluance RT81" and am liking what I read about it (and like the styling of it too !!). Moneywise, I could stretch to "
Fluance RT82", but it has no phono preamp built in, and I don't want to deal with the hassle of getting one for budget and space consideration.
Another item I am looking at is "Denon DP-300F", though it is somewhat on the upper edge of the budget.

My concern is .. that I want to buy a turntable for many-many years .. and obviously, years down the line I may need to upgrade the tone arm / stylus etc...
So, the choice I am to make now, has to be with consideration on how easy it is to find the supplies for the one I will be buying. I do not much care whether it is a "plug-and-play" or requires a little labor to put together. It is the ease of access to parts on the market that concerns me. And of course, an advise on the above mentioned models would be much appreciated.
 
Dima R. said:
Thank you, for replying ..
It seems, that anywhere I am looking at, the "AT-LP120" always comes up. Like that popular kid in school. Always praised, always on the front pages.
And, I am already considering it. Researched, put a bookmark as a candidate.
However, I am also considering other options. For instance, seem the consideration that a belt drive is better for music listening (my primary and the only goal) is a reasonable input.
I am looking, at "Fluance RT80" and "Fluance RT81" and am liking what I read about it (and like the styling of it too !!). Moneywise, I could stretch to "
Fluance RT82", but it has no phono preamp built in, and I don't want to deal with the hassle of getting one for budget and space consideration.
Another item I am looking at is "Denon DP-300F", though it is somewhat on the upper edge of the budget.

My concern is .. that I want to buy a turntable for many-many years .. and obviously, years down the line I may need to upgrade the tone arm / stylus etc...
So, the choice I am to make now, has to be with consideration on how easy it is to find the supplies for the one I will be buying. I do not much care whether it is a "plug-and-play" or requires a little labor to put together. It is the ease of access to parts on the market that concerns me. And of course, an advise on the above mentioned models would be much appreciated.
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Hello Dima,

My advice would be that you figure out your own system first without any turntable considerations. Figure out what you like, what sounds good to you. Some expensive systems might not sound good to you, I guarantee you. Pay attention to the speakers as they alter the sound the most.

Invest in a good DAC, it would help you in a long run a lot more as anything you find on the net (with the exception of the mp3's would sound much better than what comes out of your turntable. One could get a decent DAC for less money than a crappy turntable and enjoy music much more.

In essence, put a good system together and then worry about turntable as I guarantee you that you wont be using it as much, just for the novelty of it.

To answer your specific question: Fluance are good turntables for what is being manufactured new, but they are real crap. The Denon is light years ahead, it is even better than the Project Debut Carbon DC.

HTH

Soundork
 
Thanks for advises .. Hehe .. your reply triggered more questions than I was hoping for ... :)
Soundork said:
Figure out what you like, what sounds good to you.
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I am NOT building a system.. and I thought I did mention it in the OP .. .. Turntable is a component that I want to add .. and over the last 5-6 years .. since received that Jensen .. I mentioned, I notice that I put on an LP more often than before
And am starting to buy the LP records too .. So that said .. it became obvious to me to upgrade.

I am sorry, I think I misunderstood your comment about Fluance .. Is it good if purchased new but deteriorates quickly ??
And

I am already at the stage, where I do not "listen" to music on my phone or computer .. I may play some that way while working .. but it is just for the ambience ..
When I settle to listen something, it is through the system components designed for that - listening.
I have a quality ONKYO receiver .. (TX-SR506) and a pair of Klipch bookshelves .. not powered ..
I live in the apartment in the big city. It is relatively quiet place, and the room location is such that I can raise the volume without bothering anyone. .. but it is still a city street and not a basement in the remote house .. so I understand that I don't have an ideal listening situation. That's why I am not looking to invest into a new system. Just a turntable ... however, I do want to buy one and be able to enjoy it for many years ...
Thanks for the DAC advise ..
 
Dima R. said:
Thanks for advises .. Hehe .. your reply triggered more questions than I was hoping for ... :)


I am NOT building a system.. and I thought I did mention it in the OP .. .. Turntable is a component that I want to add .. and over the last 5-6 years .. since received that Jensen .. I mentioned, I notice that I put on an LP more often than before
And am starting to buy the LP records too .. So that said .. it became obvious to me to upgrade.

I am sorry, I think I misunderstood your comment about Fluance .. Is it good if purchased new but deteriorates quickly ??
And

I am already at the stage, where I do not "listen" to music on my phone or computer .. I may play some that way while working .. but it is just for the ambience ..
When I settle to listen something, it is through the system components designed for that - listening.
I have a quality ONKYO receiver .. (TX-SR506) and a pair of Klipch bookshelves .. not powered ..
I live in the apartment in the big city. It is relatively quiet place, and the room location is such that I can raise the volume without bothering anyone. .. but it is still a city street and not a basement in the remote house .. so I understand that I don't have an ideal listening situation. That's why I am not looking to invest into a new system. Just a turntable ... however, I do want to buy one and be able to enjoy it for many years ...
Thanks for the DAC advise ..
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I simply recommended that you figure out how to play digital files or streaming content, before investing in a turntable. This is not like playing music on your computer or phone. It is sending music to your Onkyo. I am not sure if it has a DAC integrated within it, if it doesnt, my recommendation was to invest in such. Look at my setup for example:

I have a workstation which is connected to a DAC and the DAC is connected to my receiver. All these components are in my signature. I can stream music from the internet, play high resolution files stored on my workstation drive or play CD's using the DVD player of my workstation. If your Onkyo has an integrated DAC, all you have to do is figure how to use it which would be either by you connecting a computer/laptop to it from which you send music to or use your WiFi to connect to it. I am pretty sure you would prefer the second option. Very simple.

The Fluance is a noisy deck, despite that they advertise it as "HiFi". I evaluated it when I was replacing my first turntable - Sony PS-T3 (google it, nothing special) and returned it, because was much noisier than the Sony.

I stand by my original advice that you figure out how to play digital files/CD's/stream through your Onkyo/Klipsch system first, before investing in a turntable. I also stand by my original statement about the turntable: with your limited budget, you would be much better off investing in a good quality older deck than in cheaper new one.

Also, between me and you...If I didn't have all this records from long time ago, I wouldn't be having a turntable in my system, because it is too much work and expense, meaning that you are in a constant battle to keep dust away, static during winter, record imperfections, lower quality than digital (no matter how expensive the turntable is), but most of all, the stylus lasts 500 hours and the entire cartridge 2000 hours at most. Why would I go through this expense, when I can have it on demand off of the Internet at higher quality and I don't have to think about gear amortization?

Something to think about. I don't want to dissuade you from getting a turntable, just showing you that you are not utilizing your system to full extend yet.

Best

Soundork
 
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