Natural Digital Interconnects...Tested and Exposed!

[restorer-john]

Attached are some of my experiments in the sound quality of various 'natural' interconnects. Attached are images of the equipment used, a Rotel standalone D/A RDP980, a Sony X7esd CD player (my fav), and a Sony TAE77es preamp, along with a TAN77es power amplifier running into Mission M53 speakers.
Of course, the carrot introduced a somewhat colored sound but enjoyable nonetheless. The potato I felt was definitely an earthy character with some detail left a bit too buried and perhaps a little dirty. The piece of chicken was interesting in its fibrous yet bland presentation whereas the strawberry, of course, produced the most luscious and truly satisfiying sound of them all.
For the record, bit for bit identical over any fruit or vegetable I tried compared to a straight coax 75ohm cable. I also liked the banana's sound- sorry no pics as I ate it soon after...

 

[cabinover]

I would think the carrot might have worked better if it had been upright


:lmao::lmao:

 

[dnewma04]

It's not my real nose, it's a false one!

 

[grumpy]

I now feel stupider for having read this dumb ass post...

 

[wineslob]

Funny none the less Grumpy, but it also makes for great brain food. :stupid:

 

[House de Kris]

In an effort to bring some value to this thread, does any one know why a carrot is oranger than an orange? Better yet, if you know the vintage music reference in that question, chime in! If you are right, you win nothing at all!

 

[dnewma04]

The Amboy Dukes?

 

[tentoze]

In an effort to bring some value to this thread, does any one know why a carrot is oranger than an orange? Better yet, if you know the vintage music reference in that question, chime in! If you are right, you win nothing at all!

Regardless of the real answer is, it should be Billie Hayes singing "There Aint' No Rhyme For Oranges."

 

[dnewma04]

I think I just won nothing!

 

[House de Kris]

Yes!!! dnewma04 is now the proud winner of absolutely NOTHING!

 

[restorer-john]

Before anyone dismisses this a "dumb ass thread", go and actually do it. Oh, and before you tell me it won't work, go do it. Obviously (for the humour challenged) I was trying to inject something interesting that I can bet you have never done before and will be surprised at the result.
The outer shields are connected together and the hot passes through anything you may wish to try. I used two dressmaking pins as can be seen to pierce various pieces of fruit and other things. Hi-Fi has a lot of BS attached and this little experiment will show the digital interconnect can be practically anything and still work perfectly. Be brave and post your results or do you fear your ticket to the Audiophile playground will be cancelled?

 

[gearhead]

The potato is too close to the carrot for a real audiophile-type test. :yes:

 

[Mark W.]

makes me want to go out and spend half next years income on a pair of interconnects.

 

[House de Kris]

OK, I admit that I didn't take you seriously at first. With your adjectives of sound mimicing the food used for an interconnect, I figured you were just out for a laugh. Thanks for setting the record straight and stating this is serious stuff here.

...digital interconnect can be practically anything and still work perfectly.

Since you've said you're serious, and made the quoted claim above, I must ask you what is your definition of 'perfect'? Going further, you claim in the original post that fruits and veggies are "bit for bit identical" when compared to a legit 75ohm cable. What was your methodology for determining this?

Why stop with digital cables? Have you tried potatoes and/or strawberries for analog interconnets? Who knows, using a matched pair of carrots between your turntable and preamp might help out that situation.

 

[Lefty]

Before anyone dismisses this a "dumb ass thread", go and actually do it. Oh, and before you tell me it won't work, go do it. Obviously (for the humour challenged) I was trying to inject something interesting that I can bet you have never done before and will be surprised at the result.
The outer shields are connected together and the hot passes through anything you may wish to try. I used two dressmaking pins as can be seen to pierce various pieces of fruit and other things. Hi-Fi has a lot of BS attached and this little experiment will show the digital interconnect can be practically anything and still work perfectly. Be brave and post your results or do you fear your ticket to the Audiophile playground will be cancelled?

I caught that on first reading as I recalled a rather famous posting on some site showing a digital audio connection using a coat hanger bent straight.

Their point was that with a digital communication link, with error detection, the signal either is useable or not and that there is no analog audio quality factor that the medium could effect. At least that was their point but of course those that belive in upgraded digital cabling will find it not worth consideration, as there is the 'jitter factor' of course :scratch2:

Lefty

 

[restorer-john]

OK, I am out for a laugh, but when I say bit for bit identical- I mean it. How do I determine this? The buffered (D/A loop out) digital feed goes straight into a Yamaha CDRHD1300e hard disk recorder and the disc is compared after being burnt(burnt cd vs' original) on my PC. I did this once- no need to keep wasting Audio CDR's for a fun experiment. Apart from intertrack gaps, the file data is IDENTICAL so nothing, I repeat nothing, has been lost or affected.
I am happy to burn a CD through a piece of fruit for anyone who wants to put their money where their mouth is and tell me it is any different.
Obviously you cannot do this with an analog cable- well you could but it would be a disaster.
Anyway, its all in fun...

 

[KingBubba]

Just a thought. Have you tried a human body as one of your test elements. The human body is not a great conductor but it does pass electricity and does have a couple of openings that could be used for interconnects. Let us know what you find out.:thmbsp:

 

[restorer-john]

Fingers work fine actually (one rca in each hand) - no need for further internal exploration....

 

[Dusty Chalk]

OK, I am out for a laugh, but when I say bit for bit identical- I mean it. How do I determine this? The buffered (D/A loop out) digital feed goes straight into a Yamaha CDRHD1300e hard disk recorder and the disc is compared after being burnt(burnt cd vs' original) on my PC. I did this once- no need to keep wasting Audio CDR's for a fun experiment. Apart from intertrack gaps, the file data is IDENTICAL so nothing, I repeat nothing, has been lost or affected.
I am happy to burn a CD through a piece of fruit for anyone who wants to put their money where their mouth is and tell me it is any different.
Obviously you cannot do this with an analog cable- well you could but it would be a disaster.
Anyway, its all in fun...

Well, that's not exactly fair -- you've eliminated any jitter that the digital connection may impart...wait, I'm taking this too seriously.

I think I'm going to go eat a banana.

I think you have me set up for avatars for life, however.

That piece of chicken looks nasty. When I first looked at it, I thought it was a hunk of garlic or something...

Never rub another man's rhubarb...

 

[House de Kris]

Thanks for the update, I noticed you still haven't defined perfect.

The buffered (D/A loop out) digital feed goes straight into a Yamaha CDRHD1300e hard disk recorder and the disc is compared after being burnt(burnt cd vs' original) on my PC.

OK, this is a valid test of verifying that the ones and zeroes made it through the cable successfully. But, as Dusty Chalk alluded, that's not the whole story. Or, is this your little way of telling the world you believe the only information conveyed over a digital cable is 1s-n-0s?

...the file data is IDENTICAL so nothing, I repeat nothing, has been lost or affected.

With this empahsis, I guess you ARE claiming the only function of a digital audio interface is, indeed, to get bits from one point to the other.

Obviously you cannot do this with an analog cable- well you could but it would be a disaster.

Why is this obvious? Have you followed your own advice and "go and actually do it"?

Oh, and before you tell me it won't work, go do it.

Since you are saying it is obvious it won't work, I suppose you have done the experiment already, based on your philosophy. Please share the results, even if it was a disaster.

I suppose the most confusing aspect of your claim is that IF you are saying anything works, they are all perfect, then how come you came up with different adjectives to describe each interconnect's sound? If they are all perfect, they should all sound identical. If one sounds fiberous and the other sounds dirty, then at least one of those is NOT perfect. Personally, I suggest neither is perfect.