Need a speaker ID please....
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Donkey Karma
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I thought for a second they were DCM TW7's. From what I remember of the ones I worked on I don't think so. Bigger base on the bottom if I remember correctly?
Anyway good luck
Anyway good luck
maxhifi
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http://www.regonaudio.com/Soundwave.html
this?
Don't ask me how I found this, magic? I thought they looked like mirage speakers, so I typed mirage pentagonal speakers into google, and it gave me this as one of the first images
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Wait those have a tweeter on top, I think these are them
Soundwave Soliloquy Tower Speakers
https://www.ebay.com/itm/High-End-USA-Made-Soundwave-Soliloquy-Tower-Speakers-Matched-Pair-Fully-Tested-/141455364999?nma=true&si=G0p%2F9t5zQUUVhl7ayOCsnYPaogA%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
"High End USA Made Soundwave Soliloquy Tower Speakers in Very Good Condition Fully Tested. Made from 1989-93 in Rochester, NY by Fidelity Soundwave these speakers sold new for $2,500/pair (that is in early 90's dollars). Each Tower speakers features two 8" woofers and two 1" tweeters in a unique 5 sided acoustic suspension design that is 38 5/16" tall x 16" deep x 12" wide. They are in a matched pair with a dedicated right and left speakers, original carpet spikes included (not shown). These sound very good indeed, Soundwave speakers have been very favorably reviewed in the Absolute Sound magazine. From the manufacturers design statement:
"Soundwave Point Source models acknowledge the simple acoustic fact that any wavelength of sound shorter than the width of a loudspeaker's front panel is mechanically distorted. Those familiar with the physics of wave propagation understand this. Further, any frequency which has a wavelength shorter than the width of a loudspeaker's front panel will be heard more than once by a listener. That is, the listener will first hear the direct sound, and then, microseconds later, its reflections off the baffle or diaphragms. This seriously degrades transient response and stereo imaging, and alters tonality.
Point Source loudspeakers have a unique "V" -shaped cabinet with the point of the "V" facing the listener. A special high-frequency drive unit located at the point of the "V" is flanked by two bass/midrange drivers oriented in a variation of the D' Appolito configuration, which allows for mirror imaging and an improved (horizontally and vertically hemispherical) radiation pattern. It's sort of a "V"-shaped coaxial speaker. This geometry is patented and approximates a true point source; it propagates a coincident, hemispherical wave with outstanding imaging".
this?
Don't ask me how I found this, magic? I thought they looked like mirage speakers, so I typed mirage pentagonal speakers into google, and it gave me this as one of the first images
edit:
Wait those have a tweeter on top, I think these are them
Soundwave Soliloquy Tower Speakers
https://www.ebay.com/itm/High-End-USA-Made-Soundwave-Soliloquy-Tower-Speakers-Matched-Pair-Fully-Tested-/141455364999?nma=true&si=G0p%2F9t5zQUUVhl7ayOCsnYPaogA%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
"High End USA Made Soundwave Soliloquy Tower Speakers in Very Good Condition Fully Tested. Made from 1989-93 in Rochester, NY by Fidelity Soundwave these speakers sold new for $2,500/pair (that is in early 90's dollars). Each Tower speakers features two 8" woofers and two 1" tweeters in a unique 5 sided acoustic suspension design that is 38 5/16" tall x 16" deep x 12" wide. They are in a matched pair with a dedicated right and left speakers, original carpet spikes included (not shown). These sound very good indeed, Soundwave speakers have been very favorably reviewed in the Absolute Sound magazine. From the manufacturers design statement:
"Soundwave Point Source models acknowledge the simple acoustic fact that any wavelength of sound shorter than the width of a loudspeaker's front panel is mechanically distorted. Those familiar with the physics of wave propagation understand this. Further, any frequency which has a wavelength shorter than the width of a loudspeaker's front panel will be heard more than once by a listener. That is, the listener will first hear the direct sound, and then, microseconds later, its reflections off the baffle or diaphragms. This seriously degrades transient response and stereo imaging, and alters tonality.
Point Source loudspeakers have a unique "V" -shaped cabinet with the point of the "V" facing the listener. A special high-frequency drive unit located at the point of the "V" is flanked by two bass/midrange drivers oriented in a variation of the D' Appolito configuration, which allows for mirror imaging and an improved (horizontally and vertically hemispherical) radiation pattern. It's sort of a "V"-shaped coaxial speaker. This geometry is patented and approximates a true point source; it propagates a coincident, hemispherical wave with outstanding imaging".
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More like SPS speakers (Soundwave Point Source). Reminds me of Time Windows speakers, minus the tweeter on top and at the V...
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swechsler
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I think we have a winner...
Well, that means you can list them as "RARE!" 
Some more good info here:
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/who-makes-these-what-is-the-value-on-them
I'm seriously thinking of picking these up for what the seller is asking, just to see what the deal is.
Edit: Mid/woofers by Peerless & tweeters by Focal?? Whoa.
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/who-makes-these-what-is-the-value-on-them
I'm seriously thinking of picking these up for what the seller is asking, just to see what the deal is.
Edit: Mid/woofers by Peerless & tweeters by Focal?? Whoa.
Donkey Karma
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maxhifi
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Always amazes me to see a once proud $2500 speaker looking so sad, all scuffed up and missing its badges. Maybe someone's idiot son inherited them, and then decided they're too big. Or, maybe they don't sound that good, and that's why we've never heard of them.. only one way to find out, I guess!
HomerJSimpson
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Great score!
soundmotor
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I used to work with one of their employees. The owner of the company, Jim Gala, was a musician and speaker design was self taught.
Update: got the speakers home, cleaned em up a bit and have been listening to them for the last few hours. The seller told me he bought them from a high end stereo shop several years back when he was living in Chicago. He also said the original price was $2500/ pair--confirming the info above--but he got them for $1200 ($600 each) on closeout when they were being phased out. They aren't in too bad shape, couple small tears in the cloth and one lacquered top has lost its adhesion and wants to come off, it's velcroed on there right now. The model designation on the terminal plates is most definitely "SFC" (what the seller thought was a "P" is an "F".) So no idea what that stands for, but they sure seem to be the speakers in the ebay link above. The wraparound grille fabric is completely irremovable, unless I want to remove the stitching in back-- I'm not that brave so I can't really check the driver manufacturers. So I just vacuumed the grille fabric, and dusted the terminal plates. Unfortunately in my ineptitude, I wiped the terminal plates down with a damp rag-- the "L" and "R" designations along with the serial numbers are basically inked on those plates, so when I wiped them down I accidentally removed some of the serial number on one! 
Luckily I noticed and stopped before removing the rest of it-- or the "L" and "R"!! (The serial numbers are 4321 and 4323 BTW.)
But how do they SOUND you ask?
OK, initial reactions: First and foremost they have a fairly aggressive, forward midrange- piano, female vocals, anything around that range is very pronounced. It sounds quite good, clear and detailed, but maybe just a bit at the expense of the top end-- the high frequencies initially sounded slightly truncated with vocals overpowering them. A kick up of the treble from flat to "1" on my Sony ES receiver, along with cutting the bass down to "-0.5" and the mid to "-1.5," seems to have pretty much tamed all that. (Listening to them now I might have actually kicked the treble up .5 too much- indicating that they also seem to be EXTREMELY revealing of different recording mixes.) Low end no complaints whatsoever- very fast, tight dynamic and "kicky" and they go LOOOOW. There seems to be just a bit of a "huff" resonance from the cabinet but it is not bothersome. All in all I really like them- for $100 and after a tiny bit of EQ-ing, absolutely zero complaints-- and I get the feeling they will grow on me the more I listen to them.
TBH I also think I'm shortchanging them with a lack of power, no biamping, and positioning limitatons--they seem like high end speakers that are being held back. I think more power and a more refined amplifier that emphasizes top end a bit over midrange (whatever that might be) would really make these things sing. Also my room layout sucks and there's really only one way to place these (with one in a slightly angled corner and the other open out to space) so that may be playing a big part as well. I think the biggest drawback there is that these speakers seem to be made to throw out a huge soundstage but they are being limited by what I can provide. I'll post some pictures when I get a chance (although there's not much more to see without being able to remove the grille fabric...)
Luckily I noticed and stopped before removing the rest of it-- or the "L" and "R"!! (The serial numbers are 4321 and 4323 BTW.)But how do they SOUND you ask?
OK, initial reactions: First and foremost they have a fairly aggressive, forward midrange- piano, female vocals, anything around that range is very pronounced. It sounds quite good, clear and detailed, but maybe just a bit at the expense of the top end-- the high frequencies initially sounded slightly truncated with vocals overpowering them. A kick up of the treble from flat to "1" on my Sony ES receiver, along with cutting the bass down to "-0.5" and the mid to "-1.5," seems to have pretty much tamed all that. (Listening to them now I might have actually kicked the treble up .5 too much- indicating that they also seem to be EXTREMELY revealing of different recording mixes.) Low end no complaints whatsoever- very fast, tight dynamic and "kicky" and they go LOOOOW. There seems to be just a bit of a "huff" resonance from the cabinet but it is not bothersome. All in all I really like them- for $100 and after a tiny bit of EQ-ing, absolutely zero complaints-- and I get the feeling they will grow on me the more I listen to them.TBH I also think I'm shortchanging them with a lack of power, no biamping, and positioning limitatons--they seem like high end speakers that are being held back. I think more power and a more refined amplifier that emphasizes top end a bit over midrange (whatever that might be) would really make these things sing. Also my room layout sucks and there's really only one way to place these (with one in a slightly angled corner and the other open out to space) so that may be playing a big part as well. I think the biggest drawback there is that these speakers seem to be made to throw out a huge soundstage but they are being limited by what I can provide. I'll post some pictures when I get a chance (although there's not much more to see without being able to remove the grille fabric...)
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Awesome soundmotor! You wouldn't happen to still be in touch with that guy would you? I'd love to get some more info on these!
I'd love to hear what these would do with a true high-end amp. Unfortunately anything like that is probably not in my foreseeable future...
