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NEED HELP - Knight KG-400 Info

Wharfcreek

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Hello all........

I just acquired a Knight KG-400 Integrated 'tubeless' amp......and 'NO', it's not solid state.....lol.....just simply acquired without any tubes!! Sadly, this amp did NOT come with any info on tube types or placement as well. So, I'm thankful that the AK forums exist, as I was able to glean some info that has been helpful. So far I've determined that the amp uses either 6BQ5s or 7189 OTs, and all the other signal tubes are 12AX7s (with one 7025). I'm somewhat familiar with the 7189 vs the 6BQ5, and that's a subject for another thread. BUT, to say the least, I understand that there IS a difference, and the 7189 is a more robust tube with a higher plate voltage rating. I'm still unsure if this Knight amp is supposed to use the 7189s or will work properly with 6BQ5s, but if anyone can answer that questions, I'd like to know just which one it was designed to use. Also....what rectifier is specified for this unit? Ihave both a 5Y4 and a 5AR4, and would like to put the proper tube in the amp!! And finally, if anyone has a schematic, I'd really appreciate a copy!! I might also add that when I 'googled' the amp, I found that there is a website called Radiomuseum which was the first 'hit' on google for 'Knight KG 400 Schematic". In going to that link, MY amp came up in the photo.......NOT a 'similar' unit....but MY actual amplifier!! What a hoot! If you're interested, I can tell you how I confirmed that. I might also add that I purchased this amp with the hopes of restoring it and making a few dollars on it.......so if you've got any ideas on that subject, please send me a note. But, who knows....when I actually get a chance to HEAR this amp, I may want to keep it.....and it's being 'famous' and all doesn't hurt any.....lol. Beyond that....as always.....I appreciate any help that can be offered!! Kind Regards to all........Tom D.
 
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Hello all........

I just acquired a Knight KG-400 Integrated 'tubeless' amp......and 'NO', it's not solid state.....lol.....just simply acquired without any tubes!! Sadly, this amp did NOT come with any info on tube types or placement as well. So, I'm thankful that the AK forums exist, as I was able to glean some info that has been helpful. So far I've determined that the amp uses either 6BQ5s or 7189 OTs, and all the other signal tubes are 12AX7s (with one 7025). I'm somewhat familiar with the 7189 vs the 6BQ5, and that's a subject for another thread. BUT, to say the least, I understand that there IS a difference, and the 7189 is a more robust tube with a higher plate voltage rating. I'm still unsure if this Knight amp is supposed to use the 7189s or will work properly with 6BQ5s, but if anyone can answer that questions, I'd like to know just which one it was designed to use. Also....what rectifier is specified for this unit? Ihave both a 5Y4 and a 5AR4, and would like to put the proper tube in the amp!! And finally, if anyone has a schematic, I'd really appreciate a copy!! I might also add that when I 'googled' the amp, I found that there is a website called Radiomuseum which was the first 'hit' on google for 'Knight KG 400 Schematic". In going to that link, MY amp came up in the photo.......NOT a 'similar' unit....but MY actual amplifier!! What a hoot! If you're interested, I can tell you how I confirmed that. I might also add that I purchased this amp with the hopes of restoring it and making a few dollars on it.......so if you've got any ideas on that subject, please send me a note. But, who knows....when I actually get a chance to HEAR this amp, I may want to keep it.....and it's being 'famous' and all doesn't hurt any.....lol. Beyond that....as always.....I appreciate any help that can be offered!! Kind Regards to all........Tom D.
You might try contacting jcricket for tech info:
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3190520&postcount=25

here is some general info:
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1709883&postcount=9
 
I picked up a pair of these a while back. I then hunted down and found a set of schematics. I later traded these off to anotehr ak'er. ke4mcl IIRC.
I had pulled the iron out of one unit for another build. it isn't too bad. Probably as good as most of the iron used in the maggie consoles at the time.
It uses a gz34/5ar4 rectifier. I no longer have the schematicsd - contact ke4mcl, he likely still has them
 
From the 1967 Allied Catalog.

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Ya know....the more I find out about this amp....the more 'intriguing' it gets!! I'm thinking it ought to sound pretty good......and if not.....I've no doubt that there's some magic that can be worked around it! I've been VERY impressed with the performance of older Dynaco ST-35s and SCA-35s......and I'm betting this will rival those amps without too much difficulty. I guess time will tell...... I've pluged in a set of 6P14Ps for outputs, and loaded in some 12AX7s, and installed a new Ruby 5AR4. Next step will be to drag out the variac, hook it up, add some dummy loads to the back, and start 'cookin' this thing for a while. I'll give a final report in the next few days. Right now I'm 'testing' some speakers for re-sale purposes. Thanks to all for the support and info!! Kindly, Tom D.
 
Tom, I have not worked on this particular amp. But I have worked on many of the Allied Radio Knight-Kit amplifiers. The failures seem to be filter capacitors (sometimes) and one thing that really sticks out is the plate resistors for the preamplifier tubes which are often 12AX7. They are often ½-watt 220KΩ resistors (red-red-yellow-silver) and are often either open or way high in value. I don't who Allied bought them from. But many are bad and some are OK. Because as a rule of thumb, I now always replace them if I restore an amplifier.

The output transformers are not huge on this amplifier so don't expect a lot of bass at high volume levels. Now that is not a negative comment. This amplifier is a very respectable amp I am sure. It looks like two KM-15 amps on one chassis. About 15-16 Watts RMS per channel.

Keep us posted!
 
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