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Newbie Cap Replacement FAQ / Primer

hopjohn

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Newbie Capacitor FAQ and Primer.
This seemed appropriate for the number of times I get asked these type of questions.

Help, my broken whatzit doesn't make sound?
Figure out how to fix it first. Don't recap any unit until it works. If you want to do a "recapair" 90% of the time you're just going to waste money, frustrate yourself, and make it a helluva lot harder for anyone on the boards to help you troubleshoot. Much of troubleshooting is the process of elimination, and if you add potential faults that process becomes exponentially more difficult.

Can you provide a BOM? or list of Caps?
If you're going to do a recap of something not well covered you'll have to learn how to do so independently of the few provided BOMs here. Think of those BOMs as a a guide only, and something of a luxury. Few have time or the desire to do what can best be done by someone with a unit in front of them. Changes over the course of the production of any unit lead to changes in components. You are the one who has the power to provide the best, most accurate list for your needs.

Does this list look right, should I place my order?

Find a service manual to use as a guide if you can. Check it against what's inside (if the unit is factory stock the unit takes precedence in discrepancies). Comparing to often errant service manuals there may be more or fewer caps, different values, incorrect board screening polarities, schematic errors, incorrect part IDs, IDs that are used multiple times, and a plethora of other hiccups that only you can uncover by doing your due diligence. Take pictures of the unit and boards from multiple angles, take notes, triple check polarities. Don't be in a rush to place your parts order, the likelihood of making a mistake or leaving something off is high. Once actually beginning the recap your best chance of success is breaking down the work into stages, doing a board at a time. Check for functionality between completing boards even if reassembly is required.

How do I know where to use what caps during a recap?
My advice is to study schematics and the internal layout of vintage amplifiers/receivers. In time you'll begin to digest and identify what all the symbols mean. As your familiarity grows you'll begin understanding which boards are which just by looking inside. For starters, it's not uncommon for at least one variation of the signal path (there are many depending on switch orientation) to be shown on the schematic for one channel, usually with a bold line. This will help you determine where and which type of caps should be used. Reading the forums and all relevant posts for any particular unit is encouraged and can help obviously, but in other ways it can also be a hindrance. Many differences in opinion on capacitor replacement exist and will lead someone new down different paths that can ultimately frustrate. For example, some claim to hear improvements using audio grade caps in the power supply over low impedance, but that comes at the expense of longevity. So you need to decide for yourself what your ultimate goals are in advance of trying to follow someones lead.

My basic, generalized recommendations for replacing electrolytic capacitors, with the understanding they will differ from others on AK, that there will be variables that cause exceptions, and that more specific applications exist than what I've detailed below.

Low Impedance, aka low ESR caps
When possible use 105°, low impedance caps in the power supply and with any local filtering caps. Identifying the power supply should be pretty obvious, local filtering may be a little more difficult, but are typically in line with a regulator or regulating diode providing voltage to a particular board. The main filtering caps will vary so much in size and mounting the choice becomes as much about availability than what's ideal to use. For example, if the unit uses clamp mounting the diameter of the cap becomes paramount, and the height must only be as tall as the case will allow. Be prepared to have to change the voltage and capacitance in a reasonable way and do the best you can with what's available. For main filter caps ideally look to specifications of 105°, low impedance, low ESR, and high ripple current.

Small value electrolytics
Any electrolytic cap 3.3uf and under can be swapped for a Wima MKS2 series polyester stacked film cap, where space allows. I do it whenever and wherever I can regardless of what circuit they are used. It's a simple matter of being a more reliable, better behaving, and in some circuits; better sounding capacitor than an electrolytic. In some circumstances where a signal cap uses 4.7uf or 10uf electrolytic I also find a way to make use of a Wima MKS2, again space dependent. If on the rare occasion the stock electrolytic cap is quite small say 0.22uf or smaller, you can possibly use a polypropylene substitute like the Wima MKP 2 series which is theoretically superior to polyester.

Understand that film caps will inherently be low leakage, so using them will automatically provide lower leakage than you can get from any electrolytic cap. Film caps are bi-polar (aka non polar) and are perfectly acceptable substitutes for polarized caps. This is NOT true in reverse however, because you CANNOT use a polar cap to replace a non-polar one. Because film caps are non-polar their orientation is not a concern. They have no positive or negative poles so can placed in the board in either direction.

Bi-Polars
If there happens to be a bi-polar electrolytic in the power supply, protection circuit or elsewhere that is larger in capacitance than 10uf I try to use a Nichicon ES series bi-polar electrolytic cap. The ES series is somewhat large in diameter for their relative capacitance and will sometimes not fit the available space. In this case I use whatever name brand bi-polar series I can find in an acceptable size.

Low Leakage cap above 3.3uf
Low leakage caps are frequently found in the tone amp, filtering, preamp, and phono amp circuits . If you find an orange jacketed cap in a 70's Kenwood it can be identified as a low leak cap. If that cap is not replaceable by a film cap per my recommendation above because either it's too large in capacitance or won't fit due to space then use a Nichicon UKL series replacement. The Nichicon UKL series come in both 85 degree and 105 degree versions. I try to use the higher temp version when I can find them, but don't sweat it if you can't and go with what's available.

Audio Caps

I use audio caps primarily in coupling stages and in locations in the signal path where a low leakage cap wasn't factory installed. Occasionally I might also use them when I don't have the correct value of a low impedance or UKL cap on hand as a bit of a compromise. I should also mention there is some research to suggest that using a good Bi-polar electrolytic like the Nichicon ES can have lower distortion than regular polar audio caps so feel free to experiment with that option.

Size Selection, Diameter vs.Voltage
Sizing of the caps is something I'm particular too. I don't see this get mentioned much. I try to make any recap I do look like it could have been factory done. In order to have a new cap have the same diameter as the one that came out, you'll almost always need to increase the voltage value. This is important for two reasons. Firstly, a vintage cap and a modern cap of the same diameter will almost always have the same lead spacing ensuring a proper original fit. Secondly, the specs of a 16V and even a 25V cap will be vastly inferior to one of the same capacitance of a slightly higher voltage, say 50V. For this reason I try never to use electrolytics below 25V. There are rare times I'm forced to use 16V for size reasons and then also occasions where an even lower voltage cap is called for due to the circuit function.

Some will argue that selecting a voltage increase beyond a certain percentage of the actual operating voltage will impair a caps ability to perform optimally. I would argue that while it may not be performing optimally, and I don't know that to be certain in any case, it will spec better from the start just on the basis of being superior to a low voltage counterpart.

Increasing capacitance
Increases in capacitance require a solid understanding of the circuit in which the capacitors you'd like to bump up reside. Therefore for beginners I'd recommend only increasing the value of main filter capacitors and nowhere else unless it has been so advised. In most cases, it is safe to increase the main caps value by up to 30% without cause for concern. With many exceptions, some modern capacitors even by top brands will tend to measure on the low side of their tolerance, particularly at certain value ranges. This was not the case 40 years ago when manufacturers attempted to provide the actual value. A small bump in value could in fact be required just to maintain the closest stock value. The only way to know for certain is to measure each new cap going in. Once you've done this long enough you'll begin to see a pattern of which caps measure a little low.
 
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Brands and Series to use

Use brand name caps. Nichicon, Elna, and Panasonic are the three main brands I use for most electrolytic caps. When we begin talking about main filter caps other brands enter the picture: Epcos, Kemet, United Chemicon, Mallory, Mundorf and possibly a few that I'm forgetting. I personally do not like Cornell Dubilier, but will use them when forced to.

Common, well liked series used to replace electrolytic caps:
Note: Nichicon series' that begin with a U are frequently referred to by their 2nd and 3rd letter only, i.e. UFG, is often called FG.
- Film 0.22uf to 3.3uf typical, but as high as 10uf Wima MKS2, Kemet R82
- Audio grade electrolytics Nichicon UFG, UFW, KW, KZ, KT or Elna RFS.
- Audio grade electrolytics larger capacitances Nichicon KG
- Low impedence Panasonic, FR, FM, FC or Nichicon UHE, UPW, UPM
- Low Leak Nichicon UKL
- Bi-Polar Audio grade Nichicon UES, VP
- Bi-Polar General purpose Panasonic SU
 
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Great job, hopjohn.

I want to reinforce/further some of your points:
  • Using WIMA MKS02 or KEMET R82 film capacitors for 4.7uf and below is absolutely the best course of action; yes, they cost a little bit more, but they'll last essentially forever and they're just better
  • I don't hesitate to use United Chemicon, Kemet, or Cornell Dubilier for larger filter capacitors if they're what's available in the capacitance, voltage, and physical size needed
  • On sites like Mouser or Digikey, volume pricing can be your friend; sometimes buying 10 capacitors can be cheaper than buying seven or eight
  • You really do want to ensure a new capacitor will physically fit into the old capacitor's space, this especially a possible issue if there are multiple capacitors in close proximity and you're trying to move upward in voltage rating
 
So what were to happen if you were to put an audio cap where a low impedance or low leak cap would go (Or vise-versa)? Deterioration of sound or would it cause other issues as well? And on the subject of audio caps, should you only use audio caps in the direct audio path (The thick black line in the repair manual schematic) or anything the audio signal touches (Caps on a leg or junction off the main path)?
 
So what were to happen if you were to put an audio cap where a low impedance or low leak cap would go (Or vise-versa)? Deterioration of sound or would it cause other issues as well? And on the subject of audio caps, should you only use audio caps in the direct audio path (The thick black line in the repair manual schematic) or anything the audio signal touches (Caps on a leg or junction off the main path)?

What would happen? If the caps are otherwise specced properly...not much. It would work fine, they're just not ideal for different tasks. Ideally, you'd almost always want low impedance, but that might sacrifice the effectiveness at handling ripple, or higher voltage spec, etc., or capacitors with low leakage and long life might not sound as great or have as low of impedance/ESR as a capacitor designed to have those specific properties (there are many people who just don't even sweat using audio grade capacitors at all). Using an audio cap in a power section would generally just mean a shorter lifespan for that capacitor, still measured in a usable lifespan of years.
 
Good to know. I just did a KA-5700 where most of the caps on the BOM were of the low impedance variety. A few others were substituted with WIMA's. Honestly, the unit sounds amazingly good now. I am about ready to tear into a KA-6100 so I'm hoping for similar results. Looks like there are only 3 orange Elna caps in the whole unit. One is probably going to get a UKL, the other two get film caps. I'll have to consider going low impedance with the others versus audio grade.
 
Good to know. I just did a KA-5700 where most of the caps on the BOM were of the low impedance variety. A few others were substituted with WIMA's. Honestly, the unit sounds amazingly good now. I am about ready to tear into a KA-6100 so I'm hoping for similar results. Looks like there are only 3 orange Elna caps in the whole unit. One is probably going to get a UKL, the other two get film caps. I'll have to consider going low impedance with the others versus audio grade.

You can't really go wrong with low-impedance variants across the board, and replacing the old, dried-out caps is the main point. It's awesome that you had such good results with the recap!

Edit: In power sections, I highly encourage longevity, low leakage, and temperature focus. :)
 
You can't really go wrong with low-impedance variants across the board, and replacing the old, dried-out caps is the main point. It's awesome that you had such good results with the recap!

Edit: In power sections, I highly encourage longevity, low leakage, and temperature focus. :)

My biggest concern as I begin to work up a BOM for a recap on a 6100 was that I would put a low leak cap or low impedance cap or audio cap at the wrong spot and blow something up. I will still try and be picky about my choices of caps. I guess the hardest thing for me is learning where each cap is most appropriate in each circuit. Several folks on here have been extremely helpful in pointing me in the right direction. I can read diagrams and schematics, I just need to learn where each type of cap is specifically the most appropriate to use.
 
Some more capacitor questions answered.

Should I be concerned about mounting all capacitors flush?
When working on Kenwoods from the late 60's early 70's the circuit boards tend to have more non-standard sized lead spacing so it can be more difficult to mount all replacements flush with boards of that era. Kenwood was more consistent as time went on into the late 70's having better fit.

If the original caps were mounted flush then there's no reason the replacements can't be. but...don't stress over it because having seen enough stock boards of the time it it's fairly common to see caps 6mm and smaller in diameter mounted a little off the board. When you consider something that's been there 40 plus years without issue, it's pretty reassuring.

Caps 8mm diameter and above I begin getting more picky about and will use lead dress. Lead dress is simply a few mm of insulation I slide over the leads (I save the strippings when I rewire things with 20awg ) when weird board lead spacing forces me to mount off the board. The insulation serves as a strain relief to counter any joint stress which is what we are trying to avoid and why we prefer to mount flush when we can.

It takes a long time to measure caps with calipers to ensure proper fit with replacements. What can I do to make it faster to build a BOM?

With main filter caps being the obvious exception, generally you don't need to measure the cap diameter and here is why. 95% of the electrolytic caps you will encounter in vintage units come in standard form factor diameters 5, 6.3, 8, 10, 12.5 and 16mm. Typically the height is not an issue and when it is, it will be obvious. Learn what each diameter looks like by sight! Old capacitors and new capacitors of those standard diameters will have the same lead spacing. Also learn which caps of different diameter have the same lead spacing, memorize this chart.
5 & 6.3mm diameter >> 2mm lead spacing
8mm diameter >> 3.5mm lead spacing
10mm & 12.5mm diameter >> 5mm lead spacing
16mm >> 7.5 lead spacing

Some audio caps are bigger than the orginal caps, what can be done?
When you make a BOM, just note the original caps diameter along with its value/voltage (the value needs to be checked as mfg. installed, don't rely on the service manual). Again memorize the diameters by sight. I also take the time to note whether the cap is installed "tight". This is a notation to let me know the cap doesn't have room around it for anything larger in diameter or if wanting to replace with a film cap, it might be an issue and know to get a backup electrolytic cap ordered just in case I can't squeeze it in. (Pretty rare so long as I use a Wima MKS2 50V replacement). Knowing what will fit largely comes down to experience. Some examples that come to mind..Nichicon KZ, ES Bi-polars (the bright green guys), and Elna Silmic II in certain sizes can get way too large often times so learn to look closely at their diameters when using them as replacements. Nichicon FG audio caps are often closer to original sizes in values where those other series I just mentioned are too big.

There's so many different caps on my order is there a way to order more efficiently?

In terms of buying the fewest "form factor" of caps... the idea is to increase the quantities of one specific cap as best you can in order to get better prices. It is difficult to give specific advice because there's just too much variation amp to amp. The best I can tell you is to try and order as many like voltage caps as will fill your requirements as possible. So for example let's say you are needing 10uf 16V, 10uf 35v caps and 10uf 50v general purpose caps just order all 10uf 50v caps to get your quantity above 10 and these will all be compatible with the smaller voltage values, no issue. If you are trying to choose caps ideal for every circuit you'll just have to be content buying a lot of different caps, no way around it. My personal cap stock is vast, but I do a lot of work, your needs will be quite different I'd imagine. It may be necessary to have a full BOM created then look it over and trim down where you can get something to meet multiple needs.
 
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There's a lot of very useful information here, so thanks for the time you have all put into this thread! I have a specific query however. I just realised I need to change two 10,000uF caps in my subwoofer. It occurred to me that while doing that, I could the caps in my marantz pm80 mk2 because it's now 30 years old, and definitely older than the sub. I'm not looking to improve the sound, just make it last longer. I hope I haven't disrupted this thread!
 
Newbie Capacitor FAQ and Primer.
In some circumstances where a signal cap uses 4.7uf or 10uf electrolytic I also find a way to make use of a Wima MKS2, again space dependent.

Thanks so much for this very detailed guide! Debating whether to replace my 4.7uF 25V with electrolytic or film. Options are:

- UPW1V4R7MDD (35V, $0.32ea)
- MKS2C044701M00KO00 (63V, $1.75ea)

I've selected 63V MKS2 film caps for all my others 3.3uF and below. Now just debating if worth it to include 4.7uF as I do have space would just sit off the board a little bit.
 
What does it do? Coupling caps, yes, I'd use film. De-coupling/filtering, no need for film. Motor control, electrolytic.
 
What does it do? Coupling caps, yes, I'd use film. De-coupling/filtering, no need for film. Motor control, electrolytic.

Unit is a Sherwood 7100A and caps are in the tone amp and FM IF boards. Bit of a newbie here so no sure how to differentiate coupling vs non-coupling.

Any input or direction appreciated!
 

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What about the Clear polystyrene capacitors ?

Polystyrene caps are film caps which are usually very reliable and don't normally need changing, so should usually be left well alone.

It's also worth noting that they may be easily damaged by various solvents (esp. acetone), as well as being easily damaged by poor soldering techniques, e.g., too much heat can quickly damage or destroy the Polystyrene layer, and it doesn't take a lot... personally, I always heatsink the leads (if at all possible) on the rare occasions that I do need to solder / desolder any, e.g., for new builds etc.
 
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