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Dark Tuner Dial Or Light Tuner Dial?

  • Dark All The Way!

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Light All The Way!

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • I Dont Care As Long As It Works

    Votes: 7 30.4%
  • I Am Triggered By This Question Because I Love Both

    Votes: 8 34.8%

  • Total voters
    23

Bodyblue

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I have not been buying vintage receivers much lately, in fact I have been selling (sold 4 in the past two months). But that does not stop me from looking of course. Some receivers I buy and sell, never for a loss but not huge profits either.....some I just want to see and listen to in person. The ones I like I tend to keep and the ones that are ok but not thrilling I tend to flip. One brand I have not had yet is Fisher. I know that the Fisher units before Emerson and Sanyo bought the company are considered true Fishers to many and I dont dispute that. I have zero interest in tubes and the early SS Fishers command prices more than I care to spend for a receiver.

I know the basic history of Fisher and how Sanyo pretty much destroyed it's reputation by 1980. As someone who worked for Sears from 1984-2004 in electronics and appliances (and as department and store manager) I am very familiar with Sanyo. They actually made some really good Kenmore microwaves and small refers. They also bought the Warwick TV plant in the US from Whirlpool in the 60s and built some very long lasting products up until the late 80s. Sears and Sanyo had a long and close relationship and many Sears audio and later LXI labeled products were made by Sanyo. The LXI stuff was rather crappy by the mid 80s and even working at Sears at the time we were all so glad when we started selling Pioneer in 1987-88. Sanyo was very capable of making really good quality gear when they wanted to and they could make some wretched junk when Sears wanted to sell something really cheap. Now the Fisher and Sanyo brands are dead since they were bought by Panasonic in 2012.

Over the years I have seen these "Sears Audio By Fisher" receivers and the nostalgic part of me wanted something with the Sears name that was decent stuff but there was always another brand I wanted to buy first. Fast forward to last week when I was cruising through eBay out of boredom mostly. I have not bought anything big and electronic from eBay for over a year just because it is such a hassle if there is something wrong. I saw several of these SABF units, most were in the mid $100s to mid $200s with one "serviced" one at $349. The new thing for eBay sellers to do is say the unit is not tested or just plugged in so they hope they wont have to take it back. I am a seller on there also so I understand where they are coming from, but I dont buy from sellers like that when there are plenty that actually test what they sell and tell the truth about it. That is why I read the ad for this unit. The seller said all the lights and functions work but all the pots were dirty and the volume scratchy. Fair enough. He had it listed for $100 OBO with $20 shipping (since he was in CA it was pretty cheap). I figured, what the hell, I have never had a Fisher and it is a Sears one as well. So I offered him $50 figuring he would laugh his ass off and say no and that would be it since I have been downsizing. 30 seconds later the offer was accepted and I got it yesterday carefully packed.

I plugged it in without speakers and it lit right up, no sparks or funny smells. I then hooked up my test speakers (Polk TSX110s) and sure enough it was super scratchy! I flipped it to FM and it found a local station, the Stereo light lit and the meter centered and the station sounded great and all this with NO antenna connected! OK, I was fairly impressed at that point. I got the top off and it was dusty but not horrible. I needed to take the bottom off to get to the pots, but once I did it was the easiest access I have ever dealt with. Two minutes later the pots were lubed. I put the knobs (another nice feature is that there is the big tuning knob and all the rest are identical) in the ultrasonic cleaner and threw some Feed N Wax on the cabinet.

As I write this long winded post, the receiver is playing Spotify through my cell phone and blowing my hair back. The stupid old thing works perfectly. Every single function works like it should and it has plenty of power.

And that leads me to ask for some opinions. I know it is difficult without hearing it, but care to take a guess at the output? The input wattage shows 190W and I know that could mean many things, but I am guessing at around 40-45 WPC. This is a mid line unit (it has the center of channel meter and not the light) and it does not have the pre outs like some other models I have seen that I assume are higher up in the line. The Polk speakers are 90 db sensitive and I pushed them as hard as I could stand in my dining room and never even came close to clipping. I am also guessing the year of production is around 1975 or so. It was after that that the Fisher stuff went to the silver tuner dial but I would love some input on that as well. Last night I put it in one of my bedroom systems and hooked it to my ancient set of Nova 7s and it sounded nice, not thrilling, but nice. After an hour or so of that, I swapped out the Novas for my set of Sansui SP 70 two ways and the sound went from not thrilling to very nice. I have bought and seen enough beat up crappy receivers to know the difference between a worn out unit and one that may be a bit dirty but in good condition. This one appears to be a lightly used one that just sat for years without being used.

Is it super rare or valuable? Nope. Is it something that Audiophiles drool over? Nope. Is it something that a person like me that finds the more rare and unusual brands interesting? Yep. The fact that it works and cleaned up so well means that even though I bought it to listen and flip, I will just sell something else and keep this one around a while.

When I saw another Pioneer unit on here that somebody had just bought and I thought "I hope I never lose the simple pleasure I get from seeing and using the lowly vintage receiver. " Very few people in this hobby start off with a TOTL system and units like this are what have sparked many a hobbyist to a loooooong journey into a rabbit hole.

Before:

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This pic shows how stupid easy to clean the pots is when the bottom is removed.

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After cleaning.

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Edit: I changed my power estimate to 40-45 wpc.
 
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the 190w is likely the input watts...on the UL label?

I cannot make it out, what is the STK number on those mods? those are very look-up-able

what model number? (ill read again above)
 
the 190w is likely the input watts...on the UL label?

I cannot make it out, what is the STK number on those mods? those are very look-up-able

what model number? (ill read again above)

Yes on the UL label. (Changed output to input.) The Sanyo power amps stock number is SS 1001.
 
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Love the vintage receivers. Came onto a similar one a few months ago from a seller down the street from me on the used for $25.00. However when I responded to his post it was gone....
Kudos and looks like a new piece of kit now that it's cleaned.. good job

I have such an aversion to the later Sanyo Fisher stuff that it took a deal like this to get me to pick one up. This one is very comparable to my Kenwood KR 4600 (the Kenwood is probably a bit better built) and easily sounds as good if not better. I was amazed how how good quality it is compared to the late 70s crap that I have passed on many times.
 
the 190w is likely the input watts...on the UL label?

I cannot make it out, what is the STK number on those mods? those are very look-up-able

what model number? (ill read again above)

The Sears model number is 143. (the number before the decimal point is the vendor #)92532 A bit of Sears/Sanyo trivia is that the 143 is an early Sanyo vendor number. By the late 70s any micro or small electric item had a vendor number of 564. If you have the vendor number you can tell exactly who built that Sears item.
 
It's a good looking receiver, and it has a nice sized transformer in there. AFAIK, SS1001 is the same as STK086, which is a 70w amp module.
 
supposedly the ss1001 is the same as the STK086, which has a max Wattage of 70 at max supply voltage of 55, with a recommended voltage of 42, which would put it in the 50 watt range...can you measure the rails?
 
supposedly the ss1001 is the same as the STK086, which has a max Wattage of 70 at max supply voltage of 55, with a recommended voltage of 42, which would put it in the 50 watt range...can you measure the rails?

That is beyond what I can do. I Hooked up my Sony STR 5800 to Sansuis the Fisher was hooked up to then switched them back and they sounded very similar to each other. Since the Sony is around 55 wpc I tend to agree with your estimate.

I also have noticed that the tuner is as sensitive as my Kenwood 4600 (which blows away the Sony's) and is aligned perfectly, which is amazing for something so old. The more I futz with the Fisher the more I get the feeling it was actually used very little and has spent most of its life just sitting. There were a few cobwebs in it and some dust but other than that, it looked great inside and out.
 
Oh, I can even recall a time - long ago and I was young - when I would have indeed found this receiver drool-worthy, oh yes. It's nice to see a model clean up so well, good job on that. Has a pretty face, good beat, you can dance to it, so I'll give it a nine. Good, well-written post, Bodyblue. Nicely done on the pics, too.
 
I like deals like this, too. That's a nice receiver. I like it.

GeeDeeEmm
I did not have high expectations for it so maybe that is why I like it so much. Better to expect low and be surprised I guess. Getting heavy electronics is always a gamble on eBay and I have got several receivers that have been total junk and either sent back or got refunded for. This seller described the unit exactly as it was and it was refreshing and I gave him excellent feedback. I am not sure why he sold it for so little but hopefully he made a little on it.

I always wonder when a company takes over another and the old product line slowly changes to reflect the new companies philosophy, when does something change for good? Does this have any of Avery Fisher in it? I know he was supposedly kept on as consultant even through part of the Sanyo days but who knows? An interesting example of the above is Bulova.......a fine and loved American watch company that was slowly taken over by Citizen. Bulova worked with Citizen and sourced from them for many years before finally being purchased outright, but Bulova watches have had Citizen sources quartz movements (Miyota) for decades. Citizen saved the Bulova name from going under and seems to pretty much leave them alone so it was a good thing. What Sanyo did to the Fisher name was typical of Asian companies in the 70s and 80s: Buy a struggling or BK American brand with a good rep and use the it on their crap.

This unit probably is a mix of Fisher, Emerson and obviously Sanyo design that I bet was built by Sanyo......That Sears put their name on it is a good example of how close Sanyo and Sears were.
 
I had it playing "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" by Charles Mingus and it seems built for smokey jazz like his. The Sansuis are a really nice match for it. I am noticing the sound is quite similar to my 2220B, which I am finding surprising.

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Oh, I can even recall a time - long ago and I was young - when I would have indeed found this receiver drool-worthy, oh yes. It's nice to see a model clean up so well, good job on that. Has a pretty face, good beat, you can dance to it, so I'll give it a nine. Good, well-written post, Bodyblue. Nicely done on the pics, too.

That was very nice to say, thank you.
 
As a young pig i remember going into almost any department store and seeing big electronics sections. Jaffco was the best I remember, but Sears was good as was JC Penneys. Remember KMart, Fred Meyers, Wards, and others having stuff also. While there isnt anything I remember as being outstanding, except perhaps the Jaffco show room, it sure was cool stuff to a young pig. Its a shame we have pretty much lost these departments.

Regards
Mister Pig
 
I am listening to more Charles Mingus and some other similar jazz with the Fisher/Sansui SP70s and I stumbled on to some serious synergy. I listened to the same playlist earlier on my front 2220B/Imperial 6 front rig that I love so much. And while the Imperials go deeper the synergy is on the same level and that really surprises me. Sometimes rigs just don't click but this one really does. I was using 14awg wire before but the speaker jacks on the the Fisher are a bit small for it so I ran a fresh set of OFC 16awg and it seems to work fine. None of the other receivers I have used with the Sansuis have made them sound this good and I almost had them sold last week since I bought the Wharfedales. I decided to keep them at the last minute and am really glad I did.
 
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As a young pig i remember going into almost any department store and seeing big electronics sections. Jaffco was the best I remember, but Sears was good as was JC Penneys. Remember KMart, Fred Meyers, Wards, and others having stuff also. While there isnt anything I remember as being outstanding, except perhaps the Jaffco show room, it sure was cool stuff to a young pig. Its a shame we have pretty much lost these departments.

Regards
Mister Pig
My dad bought our first VCR, circa 1985, at Monkey Wards. I still have Marantz speakers I got around the same era from there. They're not TOTL vintage Marantz, but I like them. I'm using them as rear surrounds in my home theater. They still sound as good as the day my parents brought them home for my birthday.
 
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