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Optimism or stupidty

Glassman

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I just completed a transaction with an Ebay seller who was selling a Pioneer SX-850 and the reserve wasn't met. The receiver was not relisted so I wrote and asked him what the reserve had been and if it was still available. The reserve price was more money than I was willing to pay so I named my price and we struck a deal. He has great feedback and has been selling primarily vintage stereo gear for some time so I felt pretty confident about it. The ad said the receiver has been to a reputable service department and has been cleaned and lubed and everything checked out. I wouldn't normally do this, but, as there are no rights for buyers on Ebay anyway, I treated it like an old classified ad. So, let me have it. I am a damned fool or should I be optimistic? :dunno:

Jay
 
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It willl probably come out OK. It's better to ask him to relist it, with the starting bid at the price that you boith agreed on. Then he has the issue of feedback to keep him honest. But then there would be ebay fees to pay, and someone might even outbid you.
I have done some deals this as as a buyer, and it worked out fine.
 
Jay I wouldn't ask him to relist as he'll get stuck paying ebay their selling fees. If PayPal is available, thats the way I'd pay him. It offers you some protection against fraud etc.. but as a rule buying outside ebay is really just a private deal. Not that ebay's fraud protection is all that great anyway and feedback ain't all it's cracked up to be.


Mike
 
A private deal worked out OK for me last year. I had been watching a CR-820 and Marantz 2245 deal and got distracted and it ended without bids. Contacted the seller and asked if he would sell them to me, he agreed and they arrived promptly, in fact that is the CR-820 I use to this day.

Rob
 
I sell (and buy) lots of gear that way.

As a seller, I just ask for payment within some short time period, or it will go on ebay.

If the guys feedback is good, then shouldn't be a big deal.
 
Thanks everyone

Thanks for all the feedback.

I told the seller my only stipulation was that he allow me to pay by PayPal. I even told him I would pay the approximate 3% fee he would incur from PayPal and offered an additonal $5 for good packaging. He has been prompt in his e-mails and I paid him this morning through PayPal. I have not heard back yet today although I did confirm he has picked up the money. He may simply be busy but there is definitely a feeling of uncertainty. I let everyone know how it turns out.

Jay
 
Many times I was the second high bidder and when the high bidder defaulted I was asked to buy the item for my bid price.
Never ran into a problem.Not to say someone might.
Usually the seller just wants to sell the item and be done with it.
I once bought a PIONEER CT-F1250 Cassette Deck for $200 on a side deal,that I was pretty nervous about.It turned out very well!
My rule of thumb,I limit myself at $200 for any eBay item or side deal.That way if you get screwed its not to devestating.Even though it would really get you steamed!
I read somewhere a person made payment installments when they thought they won a very rare '59 Les Paul Gibson guitar and got screwed out of $4000!!!:eek:
 
Just purchased an item that sold on E-Bay. I had call the seller about something else. Come to find out that the buyer lived in France and the ad stated shipping in the US only.

Paid $10 less than the selling price.
 
Brief update

I started getting nervous as hell on Thursday and Friday after I sent payment and never heard any response back. The seller finally replied back Saturday with a tracking number and everything. I asked some more questions about what services the receiver needed thinking there might have been a bad component but he indicated it had sat for a couple years and only needed the pots and switches lubricated and some bulbs changed. I feel much better about it now. I should have it by the end of week according to FedEx ground. I am pretty excited and will certainly take the cover off once I get it and look around a little. I hear all kinds of terrible stories about component switching and people buying vintage gear that "works" but will never sound right because good parts were taken out to sell elsewhere and cheap components put in their place. I am not trying to be pessimistic just realistic. Thanks to everyone who replied.

Jay :p:
 
The followup

Anyone interested in hearing about the final outcome in the SX-850 escapade?

Also, thank you to everyone for not pointing out I spelled "stupidity" wrong. I guess it fit the title afterall.

Jay
 
Well.... ( a little long)

I gotta say this: WOW! :banana: (my aplogies to those who don't like the dancing banana but I was dancing last night)

1st: The package was shipped when he said it would ship and FedEx delivered it when they said they would deliver it. Great!

2nd: I told my wife to open the box and look inside (preparing myself for the worst in the event it was not packaged well) and she did. She said everything looked good so I had to wait the entire day (it was delivered in the morning) to see it, growing more excited by the hour. Furthermore, she failed to mention the double-box packaging for which I paid an extra $5. Another great!

3rd: I got home she had put it out on the kitchen table for me. The case looked fantastic; sharp corners, wood in very good shape with only an occasional groove in the veneer but no major dents or chips. Face was a little dirty and the slightest bit of corrosion on the black metal grate in the back above the heatsinks. Great great!

4th: I took it downstairs to my work bench and hooked it up. Sound is nice and full but the bass and treble controls don't seem to have any effect. :dammit: Then I notice the little switch between the turnovers which says "Tone" on or off. :withstpd: I flip the switch and everything works fine. I have never had a receiver with that feature before. Everything seems functional. So yet another great.

5th: I pull off the cover, the face, and the bottom cover. A little corrosion inside and a little corrosion on the bottom cover but it came from the east coast so I was actually expecting worse considering all the humidity. There is a fair amount of lint and grime around the controls and the face is dirty but not filthy. The lint cleans up and face cleans up pretty well also. I cleaned the knobs and switch covers. Also, all the bulbs are working and the tuner ir pretty well aligned. Great again!

6th: Using some compressed air I blow out all the lint I can but really there isn't any as it was obviously already blown out before I got it. I look at all the caps and don't see an ruptured or leaking and there aren't any marks on the boards from excessive heat or blown components. All the compnents appear original so nothing swapped out and replaced with cheap components.

Last: I remove all the pictures from the entertainment center upstairs and the receiver is sitting in their place on top in full view and looks great. I hooked up the DVD/CD player and turned on some Little Feat. The wife notices the pictures displaced but so far doesn't seem upset. :yippy:

Just a few things I have questions about. Is there anyway to shine up the aluminum face without taking off the lettering and where can I find some replacement feet as the felt is missing from three of the four? Other than that I am very happy with the purchase. Now, it comes down to playing with speakers to get the perfect sound. Thanks to everyone who contributed to the thread. You guys are great!

Jay :thmbsp:
 
See Jay I told you not to fret over this!! Life's too short to worry about stuff that's out of your control anyway. As for cleaning the faceplate I use a product called NeverDull and it's used for cleaning aluminum wheels but works great for faceplates.

Mike
 
Mike,

Thanks. Have you used it on faceplates with black screen-print style lettering? I can imagine it would be fine with some of the earlier receivers where the lettering was engraved and anodized. I will look around for it. I also thought about trying car wax since that stuff is very mildly abrasive and works well to buff without being too agressive. Thanks again!

Jay
 
I've used NeverDull on Marantz faceplates w/o engraved lettering with fine results. Another great mild abrasive is toothpaste. However I'm not sure I want my faceplate to be minty fresh!!


Mike
 
And Home Depot sells lots of sizes of felt stick-on feet. Just had new hardwood floors installed, so I bought lots.

Rob
 
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