Packing a RTR. Feedback requested on work so far.

[scootchu]

This is the second RTR I have packed and this is complete as the inner box. I have to get an outer box to finish. Please weigh in if I have done something horridly wrong.

Corners protected and wrapped. Wrap extends up to hubs.

Foam protection over wrap and spindles protected.

More wrap

Foam in jack panel area

Bottom foam between two feet

Top of deck

In the box with foam panel underneath as well as on sides. E-gads the deck is heavy.

Corners and sides protected.

Don't have the pic of the box sealed. I am going to place this box inside a larger box and cushion the space between.Is bubble wrap the choice or should I see if I can dig up some more foam??

 

[scootchu]

second stage

The rest of the packing:

It's on its way tomorrow. It's a heavy beast and I have a skateboard in my car to get in the UPS center. What do you guys think?

 

[Vintage TX]

Looks great, you did a safe packing there, but I would not put those empty rolls on the reel-spindles, any movement and the reel-table will be flat against the face-plate and no movement on arrival.

 

[1koolcat]

Looks pretty good to me, although I'd be careful about putting such a heavy unit inside a box designed for moving personal items. I don't think the moving boxes are rated to handle that much weight and have relatively thin walls.

When shipping a large YAMAHA pre-amp overseas to Europe I sought out an over sized double-wall box from a company that sold shipping materials. The buyer said the pre-amp arrived in perfect condition, but he also added that the outer box was undamaged.

As always, you have to watch the overall girth of your box, because some carriers have size limitations. (My YAMAHA pre-amp was about 1 inch under the limit for USPS GLOBAL EXPRESS mail.)

Cheers.

 

[scootchu]

Looks pretty good to me, although I'd be careful about putting such a heavy unit inside a box designed for moving personal items. I don't think the moving boxes are rated to handle that much weight and have relatively thin walls.

When shipping a large YAMAHA pre-amp overseas to Europe I sought out an over sized double-wall box from a company that sold shipping materials. The buyer said the pre-amp arrived in perfect condition, but he also added that the outer box was undamaged.

As always, you have to watch the overall girth of your box, because some carriers have size limitations. (My YAMAHA pre-amp was about 1 inch under the limit for USPS GLOBAL EXPRESS mail.)

Cheers.

Well that box is made for a 27" TV, you just can't see the other side of the box where it is written. It's a very heavy corrugated cardboard. It weighed in at 95lbs when I took it to the counter at the UPS distribution center across the street from my office. I asked if there was a patron saint of shipping and he just smiled and told me I did a fine job.

I did come to one conclusion in my numerous shipping experiences. It seems as though some people think "Fragile" is an open invitation for disaster. I have always put "please handle with care" on my packages and the people receiving them have always been happy.

Now the weird part of this is that this deck is going to Ohio and then to Germany. The buyer asked if I could send it directly to Germany, but after listening to peoples' advice I thought the safest bet was Ohio and let the buyer handle the overseas transport. It's only 2 days in transit from me to Ohio so my fingers are crossed.

 

[spartanmanor]

Looks really good. Lots of protection on those corners is always important.

 

[scootchu]

Looks really good. Lots of protection on those corners is always important.

Yep and like a dope I forgot to pack the 10" tape reels!!!! I just told the buyer that I would get them out tomorrow. DOH!

 

[scootchu]

Looks great, you did a safe packing there, but I would not put those empty rolls on the reel-spindles, any movement and the reel-table will be flat against the face-plate and no movement on arrival.

Now you tell me. My one saving grace... the face panel goes around them, so I hope they will be alright.

 

[Arkay]

It's probably better to send the reels in a separate package, anyway. I think you did a nice job of packing that deck. One can always add more "overkill", like making custom-molded injection-foam padding in a wooden crate, but what you did is pretty close to "gold standard" for normal shipping of electronic components. It should arrive safely. If it doesn't, it won't be your fault for under-packing; they'll have to do something unusual like poke a fork-lift through the box or something like that, to defeat your packing job!

 

[Vintage TX]

Sorry, but the two reel-tables are the most sensitive part for shifting in transit.
I use bubblewrap around the whole deck and support on back and bottom:

Then a sturdy box from U-Haul 24x24x27 for the large decks:

Peanuts over the deck and then manuals reels etc:

A styrofoam sheet on top before sealing the box with packing slip inside:

 

[vincei]

I was lusting over that deck on you know where...packing looks ok, except the spindles. It seems the spindles always get the worst treatment. If you ever noticed the original packing of r2r's, the styrofoam is around the case, putting no pressure on the reel hubs and tables. Good luck, that is an ultra rare machine. :drool:

 

[scootchu]

Now you have me worried. VintageTX your deck isn't double boxed and laying on it's back. Any particular reason for laying it down?
I don't know if you can tell but the front of the deck doesn't have any direct contact with the box aside from down the center between the reel tables.
I don't think I will sleep tonight.

 

[scootchu]

I was lusting over that deck on you know where...packing looks ok, except the spindles. It seems the spindles always get the worst treatment. If you ever noticed the original packing of r2r's, the styrofoam is around the case, putting no pressure on the reel hubs and tables. Good luck, that is an ultra rare machine. :drool:

On the outside of the box I placed the normal solid styrofoam on the sides of the deck. For the front and back those are square flat pieces with a 3" wall on the outside. It provides a space between the interior box and the outside. That's where I placed the hubs, power cord and manuals. So any direct impact would not be transferred to the interior. I thought I was packing with common sense and not having anything in direct contact. I hollowed out foam where it went over switches and bottons. The one thing that is reassuring is that a lot of the foam is made from that tougher resilient material that absorbs and then goes back into shape. They use it at work to pack electronics. Oh well we'll see.

 

[scootchu]

Oh well I tried to follow the instructions found from the Reelprosoundguys to the letter. Their site: http://www.reelprosoundguys.com/packing.html
I figured they knew how to ship decks.

 

[vincei]

Now you have me worried.

It should be ok as the packing is quite good. The problem with the spindles are that the carboard rings are right on the hubs tables, and while that can protect the spindle, if there is considerable pressure on the cardboard, it can push in the reel tables, however I think in your case you may be ok, it seems you have a lot of packing material and a double box.

 

[scootchu]

It should be ok as the packing is quite good. The problem with the spindles are that the carboard rings are right on the hubs tables, and while that can protect the spindle, if there is considerable pressure on the cardboard, it can push in the reel tables, however I think in your case you may be ok, it seems you have a lot of packing material and a double box.

The funny part about this is the deck is going to the buyer is in Ohio, but the deck is ultimately going to Germany. I have sent all these pictures to the buyer and kept him appraised of all of the steps. He is going to send it to Germany via BAX. I am kinda wondering what will happen if it winds up in Germany with a problem and he never opened it up in Ohio. I know I didn't do a slack job on this, but I always go through the "what-ifs". Seems like you have to CYA all along the way. After all he is the buyer evn if he is an agent for someone else in Europe. It just had to get to him in Ohio as promised. This is why these sales are bittersweet.

 

[vincei]

I think you did a very good job overall. You should see how I got my first Tascam 34b. In a box, an inch or two larger than the deck itself, one layer of bubble wrap and a few peanuts floating around, needless to say, it arrived damaged. Again, I wouldn't needlessly worry at this point.

 

[Vintage TX]

Now you have me worried. VintageTX your deck isn't double boxed and laying on it's back. Any particular reason for laying it down?
I don't know if you can tell but the front of the deck doesn't have any direct contact with the box aside from down the center between the reel tables.
I don't think I will sleep tonight.

No I didn't double box this one, I use a U-haul box, same as you.
Because of the size it fit properly laying down and these reel-tables are
sensitive for any pressure, even when the buyers lift them out of the box they can get pushed in.
Bigger decks (70 lbs and up) I stand up inside like this and the head-cover (of metal) carry the support:

and the bottom has a styrofoam sheet first then 2-3 inches of peanuts before the deck stand up or laying down on top:

Don't loose any sleep, wouldn't worry too much but if the buyer has problems on arrival with the reel-tables, a adjustment is not so complicated to explain by email.:thmbsp:

 

[radioactive]

the packing looks fine and the unit should survive shipping.

i will point out that even with the double boxing and even having styrofoam between the outer and inner box more protection can be added to the outer box by reinforcing it with some pvc corners with 90 degree angles.i have material that comes into my work in pvc boxes that slide apart (forming the 90 degrees) that i simply slide apart then cut to the size of the box im using.i put them on all 4 corners of the box and along the bottom.this greatly improves overall strength .i dont have any pictures handy of said packing but i will post some soon of what im talking about.
anything i ship from a small transformer all the way upto some pretty heavy tube gear i ship this way and have never had anything get damaged.

 

[scootchu]

No I didn't double box this one, I use a U-haul box, same as you.
Because of the size it fit properly laying down and these reel-tables are
sensitive for any pressure, even when the buyers lift them out of the box they can get pushed in.
Bigger decks (70 lbs and up) I stand up inside like this and the head-cover (of metal) carry the support:

and the bottom has a styrofoam sheet first then 2-3 inches of peanuts before the deck stand up or laying down on top:

Don't loose any sleep, wouldn't worry too much but if the buyer has problems on arrival with the reel-tables, a adjustment is not so complicated to explain by email.:thmbsp:

That's why I packed the service manual. LOL
It is supposed to arrive in Ohio 10/24.