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Pickering XV-15 Stili

cscottrun4it

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I swear I've asked this question before, but I can't find the answer. Getting old stinks!

I have a Pickering XV-15. The sticker says so. However, the sticker does not say anything like 625e or 350. This is causing me confusion, as I need to buy a stylus for the Pickering.

Is it possible the 625e is actually the stylus that came with the cartridge? That seems unlikely, as there seem to have been several models of the XV-15. Mine is a nice gold color, but other than the XV-15 sticker on the side, I got nothing but a black stylus without a brush on it and a slightly bent cantilever.

Those said, it looks like Jico offers styli for the XV-15. However, the original styli all seem to have been moving iron rather than moving magnet. LP Gear also has some replacements. And Stanton's 681 styli will also fit, yes? Not sure how to match up the Pickering and Stanton, tho.

Ideas?
 
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Oh, and one more thing - what's up with the brush thing? Why am I not excited about one of those things dragging around on my vinyl?

:wtf::yikes:
 
- Pickering XV-15 (and Stanton 680/681) carts are moving iron carts.

- Pickering XSV-3000/4000/5000 (and Stanton 881S/981S) are moving magnet.

Cannot interchange moving iron with moving magnet.

(If you search the archives, there is a post from someone claiming to have been a Stanton salesman in the 1970s, and the poster referred to the XV-15/625e as a moving magnet cart. This has been proven to be a false statement, the best we can surmise is that the person who posted that was simply mistaken.)

There were a few generations of the XV-15 cart. Introduced in 1969, the 1st gen was two coils, and around 1971, the next generation, the 4 coil model was introduced. You can tell the difference if you lay them side by side. The 1st gen was a bit smaller, had a larger plastic protrusion out of the rear, and the mounting ears had a shallower angle than the final generation. But within each generation, the carts are all the same. All the stylii for the XV-15 series carts are interchangeable, even between the generations. There were white ones, grey ones, mirror-finish gold ones, and a sparkly gold one. All the same cart, just different colors. Some were labeled with just XV-15, while others had XV-15/625e, XV-15/1200, etc. Just depended on how they were marketing them to their dealers.

The sparkly gold XV-15/625e was marketed to dealers with a few different stylii. The D6E stylus, the D8E stylus, and of course the D625 stylus. An authentic Pickering D625 stylus has a longer, downward arcing extended cantilever, great for handling really badly warped LPs with ease. It’s a great cart/stylus combo.

The Pickering stylii had the model number printed on top of the black plastic mount right where the brush clips on, Stanton had their stylii model numbers printed on the sides. Both are easy to see.

Noteworthy XV-15 stylii are:
D350 conical
D400 elliptical
D625 elliptical
D750 elliptical
D1200 elliptical
D1800 elliptical
The last two in the list are pretty rare.

The brush is for sweeping dust away ahead of when the stylii gets to the groove, and also helps damp extraneous vibrations, similar to the Shure V15 III brush. It’s recommended to use the brush, and there are special considerations to be aware of and followed when balancing and applying tracking force and anti-skate with the brush in place. The original ’Dustamatic’ brush was rumored to be made from camel hair, and the bristles are quite soft and flexible. Aftermarket ones are synthetic and quite stiff. I personally would not use one of the aftermarket brushes.

Stanton 680/681 is also the same cart as the Pickering XV-15, stylii from one brand fits the other. Stanton referred to their brush as the ‘Longhair’, almost profiling their retail customers who bought the 681EEE carts in the late 1970’s ;)

I have several Pickering XV-15 carts, all with NOS stylii. D350 conical for playing my college record collection and thrift store finds. The conical stylus shape helps minimize picking up record wear noise and stuff. I also have the D625, and the D1200. The D1200 is equivalent to a Stanton 680/681EE. I also have a bunch of Stantons; 681EEE, 681EEES, and 881SMKII.

XV-15 and 680/681 carts with original factory stylii are amazing and will track anything. The suspensions were so ahead of their time. Aftermarket stylii are readily available, and will work, but are not really the same as the originals, not in the same league unfortunately. To get the most out of these fantastic carts, I suggest looking for NOS stylii on eBay.
 
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Thanks, coolhandjj. What a great amount of information. More than I could ever have hoped for.

Finding those NOS stili seems to be a bit of a trick. I'll keep my ear to the ground, tho.
 
@Coolhandjjl , Great Post !

This thread will get many more responses in the Turntables section. I know this is not intuitive as I post some tube preamp threads, wondering if I should have posted in Tube Audio. But, the Turntables section is there "for all things analog."

Stanton 681 and Pickering XV-15 are virtually the same. The 681 originals had Calibrated response, with their original styli. The 681A is still a favorite among the transcribing pros. Before the 881S moving magnet, the 681EEE and 681A was an industry favorite with broadcasting and sound studio professionals.

The D350 stylus should have a .3 x .7 elliptical. The D400 has a .4 x .7 stylus, IIRC. 625E has a .3 x.7 tip. 681EEE had a .2 x .7 tip. The narrower profiles elicit the best high frequency delineation, almost as good as the Shibata and Line Contact types.

However, with "average condition" discs, not in mint shape, you might prefer the less thin ellipticals or even the conicals. The pro transcribers have at least one of every available size, in order to elicit the best sound from a given disc. Sometimes, the Line Contact et al types get the best out of average to worn discs. But, many of us choose the conical/spherical tip for their usual spinning needs...

You can readarch much more info searching on the forums. There is a huge resource of info within this AK world. Keep on spinnin discs...
 
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@Coolhandjjl , Great Post !

This thread will get many more responses in the Turntables section. I know this is not intuitive as I post some tube preamp threads, wondering if I should have posted in Tube Audio. But, the Turntables section is there "for all things analog."

Stanton 681 and Pickering XV-15 are virtually the same. The 681 originals had Calibrated response, with their original styli. The 681A is still a favorite among the transcribing pros. Before the 881S moving magnet, the 681EEE and 681A was an industry favorite with broadcasting and sound studio professionals.

The D350 stylus should have a .3 x .7 elliptical. The D400 has a .4 x .7 stylus, IIRC. 625E has a .3 x.7 tip. 681EEE had a .2 x .7 tip. The narrower profiles elicit the best high frequency delineation, almost as good as the Shibata and Line Contact types.

However, with "average condition" discs, not in mint shape, you might prefer the less thin ellipticals or even the conicals. The pro transcribers have at least one of every available size, in order to elicit the best sound from a given disc. Sometimes, the Line Contact et al types get the best out of average to worn discs. But, many of us choose the conical/spherical tip for their usual spinning needs...

You can readarch much more info searching on the forums. There is a huge resource of info within this AK world. Keep on spinnin discs...
D350 is a conical, .7.
Tracks 1-3 grams. I use it for my college records and thrift store finds.
I’m actually selling an extra one.
 
So if the Stanton 680EE was the equivalent of the Pickering D1200, what is the 680EEE equivalent to? Pickering offered something called an 1800, but for quadraphonic recordings, right? Jico has something called a 6800EEE-S (for shibata) they are marketing for quadraphonic recordings, although I use a shibata cut on my Shure M91. (Great results with no quadraphonic recordings.) Jico also offers something called a 6800EEE. No idea what that is.
 
The Pickering D1200 is actually very similar with the Stanton 681EEE. The 680EE have bonded styli. The 681EEE-S had a Shibata (Stereohedron), which might be the same as the D-1800 Pickering stylus.

For the price of the newer JICO "sleeved cantilevers" styli, you might be able to find two NOS Pickering/Stanton styli. Research as many reviews as you can find and keep your eyes on the classifieds, but be ready to buy, as the bay offerings in Buy It Now style move very fast, these days...Best of Luck finding what you desire...
 
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