Pink Floyd is DONE - THROUGH - FOREVER!

[WhiteSE]

Amd the Stones havent put out any cookie cutter stuff??? it may be more sraight ahead rock and roll, but they havent done anything new in eons.

There has been allot of Stones bashing on this board and it's starting to piss me off. I'll admit the half time show was less than spectacular, but I've seen them in concert and they still rock. At least they have the balls enough to produce new material and survive longer than any rock band in history. Don't get me wrong I won't pay the huge ticket prices anymore... I'll miss them when they're gone though. They stomp all the over the cookie cutter **** that's out. Pink Floyd is a great band too bad they had to put their whiny bickering behind them when they reached 60 years old. They should have been producing worthy music as a band til age 60.

Cut the Stones some slack! I can only hope that I can carry my *?*!'n les paul and rock like they do when I'm 60.

Peace
Derek

 

[OvenMaster]

See Tom this is the problem your not supposed to be looking at Pink Floyd your supposed to be listening to the music looking at the laser show. the band has never been a thing to look at.

Granted, perhaps my statement was a bit harsh.

Maybe it'd be more accurate to say that I tried to like them when I was in high school, found them to be "okay" at best, but as time wore on I found Pink Floyd to be not as enjoyable as I'd hoped they would be, or that I enjoyed their music less as the years passed.

What I had meant was that I was looking at my ALBUMS and shaking my head at my past judgement and taste in music.

Tom

 

[Holst]

One of my co-workers said this morning "Pink Floyd broke up,.... then it wasn't my drug induced paranoia afterall".

 

[2DualsNotEnough]

Interesting factoid about PF: They took a stand against the payola in the radio industry at about the time that "The Wall" was released in 1980. What they did was pretty straightforward: they refused to pay it, or rather, refused to allow their label and promotion people to pay it.

Net result: radio didn't play the album. They didn't play the album to the point where even when PF played five sold-out shows in LA, you wouldn't know it unless you were a fan: NO radio play.

Pick up a book called "Hit Men" by Fredric Dannen, if you are interested in more of the details. It makes facinating reading.

I lived in Los Angeles at the time,and I heard "Another Brick in the Wall" every hour on the hour on the radio there.I was in high school,and we got our info about "theWall" shows on 94.7 KMET.I think I miss KMET a hell of a lot more that Pink Floyd.
Jimmy

 

[KeninDC]

Let's not forget Pink Floyd's contribution to Quad Sound (remember the Marantz w/ the quad joystick?) and their Azimuth Coordinator experiments. I'll take the British 8-track DSoTM quad sound over the new 5.1 mix any day. In contrast, Piper at the Gates of Dawn sounds better in mono than in stereo (as does "Rubber Soul," but that would be hijacking this thread).

 

[wank]

It's about time. The only reason I can think of why I bought any of their LPs must have been peer pressure in high school, trying to be as "kool" as some of the others. I look at them now and just shake my head.
Tom

I'll send you an address where you can dispose of that vinyl, should you feel the need.

This is really no surprise, and probably the right thing. IMO, the Gilmour Floyd really haven't put out anything remarkable, though I enjoyed Lapse of Reason. And Roger (who is something of a raging pr*ck, but what made the band unique) would not enjoy playing the newer material.
Before I get screamed at, while I think Roger made the band unique (the songwriting force, cynical lyrics that cut deep), Gilmour made the band special. Too bad no one could write a song to save their ass after 1982.

And I would disagree about Gilmour's solo albums. I really liked the first one.

 

[Mark W.]

I would also be willing to be the cartaker of ANY Pink Floyd Album CD or cassette that anyone feels burdened to own. If you don't like Pink Floyd then so what the music doesn't speak to you. I don't dig a lot of Jazz or even a lot of country. It doesn't strike the cord within me Pink Floyd does. even though I disagree with some of their political crap. I have found what I wanted or needed to hear in the music. And I enjoy all of their music. the classic Meddle through The Wall era the most but I also like the earlier stuff and Divison Bell and the Final Cut are played often in this house. As is some of the solo albums.

one of the reasons there is so much music in the world is that different people like different music.

But I think Pink Floyds music stands up really well as to HOW FRECKING MANY people enjoy it. DSOTM remained on the top album lists so damn long they thought it was glued there.

 

[Drybasement]

I'm looking forward to Gilmour's new album On An Island. Very much so in fact. Releasing March 7th.

 

[Fast_Eddie]

Probably the wrong forum for this, but am I the only one who never got what the big deal was about? I thought the really early stuff was great. "See Emily Play" is a fantastic song. But I never got all the stuff that sounded like a 45 played at 33 rpms.

But what do I know?

Ed

 

[Aage]

I lived in Los Angeles at the time,and I heard "Another Brick in the Wall" every hour on the hour on the radio there.I was in high school,and we got our info about "theWall" shows on 94.7 KMET.I think I miss KMET a hell of a lot more that Pink Floyd.
Jimmy

Can you remember if that was before, during, or after PF's stop in the city (for their "five sold-out shows", as mentioned in the book)?

Either your memory is off, or the author lied in the book. Or, in today's parlance, "Frederic Dannen may have failed to achieve veracity".

 

[Andyman]

Probably the wrong forum for this, but am I the only one who never got what the big deal was about? I thought the really early stuff was great. "See Emily Play" is a fantastic song.
Ed

I'm with you, Ed. The last LP I bought was WYWH, but I've probably played it a dozen times in the last 30 years. I did catch them live doing DSOTM and "Animals", but after that they played the living beejeezus out of them on the radio, and I lost interest.

Especially the "The Wall". Some folks think "Starway to Heaven", "Free Bird", and "Bohemian Rhapsody" are over played, but they ain't squat compared to "The Wall". It seemed like all you heard on the radio was "We don't need no education......." or "How can you eat you pudding, if you don't eat your meat" :uzi: :uzi:


FWIW, I did pick up a copy of "Umma Gumma" last year though, mainly for the live sets.

 

[OvenMaster]

I think that's my problem, their being overplayed on "Klassic Rock" stations since the oriiginal release dates of the LPs. (Many here know of my loathing of the classic rock FM format and stagnant playlist.) Perhaps if they weren't so overexposed by radio play I wouldn't feel the way I do. I do certainly acknowledge their place and contributions to music history, of course; I surely don't question this aspect at all, nor would I ever dream of knocking anyone else's liking of their music.
Tom

 

[datsunmike]

It's about time. The only reason I can think of why I bought any of their LPs must have been peer pressure in high school, trying to be as "kool" as some of the others. I look at them now and just shake my head.
Tom

I bought my first PF album after reading an interview with Clapton in 68 and they knocked my socks off. I saw the Pink Floyd at the Filmore East in 1970 for the first time for their tour supporting Atom Heart Mother and they were awesome and their quad sound system blew my head, probably the LSD I took for the concert didn't hurt either. In addition, I saw the PF several times in the 'early' years, including Dark Side of the Moon at Radio City Music Hall, and they always put on an awesome show.

Their records were often imitated but they were the first of their kind to perform psychedelic music and progressing to concept albums.

I wasn't trying to be 'kool' listening to the PF, I was Kool. While others listened to the 1910 Fruit Gum Company and other questionnable one hit wonders, I was listening to the Floyd and a bunch of other KOOL musicians such as Hendrix and the Doors and Cream and . . .

Perhaps you are just too young and a 'Johnny Come Lately' to the Floyd, but I happen to think that the Wall and most of their other albums were great.

Art is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[shrinkboy]

aahhh, hey, datsun....uh, ummmm, oh, nothing, forget it....

 

[Nakdoc]

At least Pink went out on top. I was lucky enought to see and hear a Tivo'd Live8 performance. What an incredible show. I would love to find this on disc! They play amazing sounds with the ease of Bluegrass musicians!

 

[StarMover]

These days, huge media corporations own multiple radio stations in all formats. They make deals with record labels and distributors and assemble playlists of x-number of songs, which are aimed at a given demographic. Then they automate the broadcasting so the local 'DJ' (if there is such a thing anymore) really doesn't have any control over what music is played. He's basically there just say stupid stuff between songs in an attempt to give the broadcast some sense of being live and local. To make things worse, the whole affair is built around the concept that the average listening time is about 15 minutes, so they don't have a problem playing what they consider to be the most popular and least objectionable music over and over and over and over and over again... Total crap. :thumbsdn: I hate radio. :thumbsdn: Only public radio and my IPOD keeps me sane. :thmbsp: Will satelite radio change this? Possibly, in the short term, but even they will become whores to the almighty dollar and it probabally won't get any better than it is today. Gee.. I'm ranting! It feels good. We could do an entire thread on this topic.

 

[Rybeam]

"Their records were often imitated but they were the first of their kind to perform psychedelic music and progressing to concept albums." Pick-up a copy of "Freak Out" by the Mothers of Invention, psychedelic concept at it's first and finest !

 

[Jack Lord]

You got that right. Playlists have been crap even before the big corporate takeovers. Legendary bands are all alotted a set quota of songs. Consequently, you hear the same 3 Santana songs, the same 5 Pink Floyd songs, and the same 5 Who songs. The mega-mega bands (Stones, Beatles) are alotted a bit more. But surely Santana and Van Morrison have more to offer than those same songs we have been hearing for ages?

Ironically, one of the best stations I ever heard was the Armed Forces Network in Germany. These DJs played anything and everything. It was like what FM must have been like in the late 60s, early 70s.

The term classic rock was the worst thing to happen to R&R IMHO. Personally, I can go from Zappa to the Beatles to the Sex Pistols to Oasis in the span of an hour. Good rock is just that. Terming something classic rock marginalized it and created a generation gap.

Anyway, Pink Floyd. Its a shame. Their artistic peak is ever more in the rear view mirror so any reunion would simply be a nostalgia show of sorts. Nothing wrong with that (see the Stones for example). Yet Waters and Gilmour cannot bring themselves to play stuff that has already been set in stone. Of course we are not privy to the dynamics and nuances between the two of them which are obviously substantial.

 

[wank]

Legendary bands are all alotted a set quota of songs. Consequently, you hear the same 3 Santana songs, the same 5 Pink Floyd songs, and the same 5 Who songs. The mega-mega bands (Stones, Beatles) are alotted a bit more.

Don't forget Led Zeppelin. Every Classic Rock Format (tm) station has a "Get the Led Out" hour.
But it's really true, and I think a large part of why folks who don't listen to Floyd don't have a concept of what the band is really like. I mean, how much Floyd sounds like "Brick in the Wall pt 2", "Run like hell", "Time", and "Money"? But those songs are the right length for radio play. Over and over and over and over. So much more of their stuff is so much better.
But some people just don't like their brand of acid-trip bitterly paranoid psychedelia. I do, and have since I was a straight-laced high school kid.

Personally, I can go from Zappa to the Beatles to the Sex Pistols to Oasis in the span of an hour. Good rock is just that. Terming something classic rock marginalized it and created a generation gap.

That's funny. We had a station here in Indianapolis that did exactly that on more than one occasion that I can remember (Ok, might have been The Clash instead of Pistols, or maybe John Mayall or Ben Harper instead of Oasis, but the Zappa and Beatles in the same hour wasn't even surprising after about a month). They had a vinyl only show twice a week. Great stuff.
It was run by a guy named "Bruce the Radio Pirate" - and I guess he just wanted to program pirate radio, and did. He owned the place, and did ALL the programming himself. He didn't make much money, and his health went downhill, and he sold to a smaller conglomerate. I came back from a vacation and heard a song that didn't belong (Elton John, Rush, Yes, something like that) and knew something was wrong. Now it's somewhere between a "Jack" format and Classic Rock. At least it was last time I listened to it.

 

[john_w]

Pink Floyd was a great band throughout their career, regardless of the Mass-marketing radio morons that can seem to cheepen even the finest with excessive hype. I thought they showed a lot of class under David Gilmour's leadership that was especially evident by how they chose to end it. They mended differences, did one more tour with a united band, then took a final bow before they started to be thought of as "old guys on stage". The Stones still show an amazing amount of energy for old dudes and I'm not ready to say 'So quit already!' But I'm sorry, I watch them and I still see old dudes. As usual, I think Pink Floyd's timing is just about right on this one.

I agree with wank's assessment of Roger Waters - his personality just kind of rubs me the wrong way and I see how he and the band eventually just grew apart. The Wall was still great but starting to lean towards something a little more funky than Floydian, and the Final Cut really just became the final straw. I suspect that the reunion was more of a showing of genuine class on David and the rest of the guys than anything else.

So, here's to the end of a great band with a great history! Well done guys!
Here, here!
>Clink!<

(Umm....unless they pull a stunt like the Eagles...Remember the "when Hell freezes over" comment? Never say never.)