Totally agree. I own a pair and actually really like them. They were made for about 8 years so that says something.I know this is an old post, but the question is timeless. I'm surprised by some of the responses. I put these in the same category as my EPI 100's. Simple 2-way design with a single cap x-over. Great for "room" volume rock-'n-roll. Oddly, the EPI's get great reviews. The pioneer's actually have a bit more bass (probably) due to the 12" woofer.

I LOVE good theater.It's been bothering me for over a year. Some nights I wake up screaming after dreaming about what you posted!

I have a pair, made in Belgium, and I can only get them to sound decent with a certain old solid state amp. Anything else they just suck. I really wonder if there are variations of the same speaker out there, different woofers or other parts? People either love them or hate them. I think if you were come over and listen to mine you'd find them different than yours. There is no way someone could listen to mine with most of my amps and say, "these sound great"I love mine, sound is expansive and room filling, voices are clear and realistic, detail is there, treble nicely balanced to my ears. The most immersive speakers I have.