Pioneer PL-15R vs Pioneer PL-100 vs Sanyo TP-1010

[EngineerNate]

Can you tell me what's a tonearm stub?



How can I make some new? This questions applies also to the PL-100, the feet's rubber are gone.

Tonearm stub is the part the counterweight mounts to. On the PL-100 and it's brethren it's very common for this to sag and eventually snap off because they have a very skinny plastic center piece taking all the load, supported by a rubber oring. When the rubber disintegrates it doesn't support the moment load, the stub starts to sag/bend and eventually the little skinny plastic center part snaps.

I replaced the rubber on a PL-250 by stretching a few rubber gloves fingers over the springs like little condoms and tying them off. Not pretty but it was better than nothing. Mine had some remnants of the original rubber that I glued back together and wrapped in there.

Other people have reconstructed the rubber by applying thin layers of RTV silicone to the springs until they have a full boot. RTV can also be used to glue any remnants of the original rubber back together to try to reach a semblance of the original shape.

Cheers,
Nathan

 

[JayPare]

I sold my PL-100 and will sell the Akai also. I found a Sears Pro Series 28668 Turntable (apparently by CEC and pretty much a Marantz 6100 rebranded). I thinking into replacing my PL-15R with this one and replace my Sanyo on my secondary setup with the PL-15R. What do you guys think? Is the Marantz 6100 superior to the PL-15R?

 

[Shrugg]

I think that the CEC turntable is definitely a step up from the Pioneer, albeit not a huge one. It has the advantage of a better tonearm and slightly better speed accuracy, so it should sound slightly better. Even so, unless you already own the CEC, I would save my pennies and wait for a deal on a better turntable. The Pioneer should get you very far in basic listening enjoyment.

 

[JayPare]

I think that the CEC turntable is definitely a step up from the Pioneer, albeit not a huge one. It has the advantage of a better tonearm and slightly better speed accuracy, so it should sound slightly better. Even so, unless you already own the CEC, I would save my pennies and wait for a deal on a better turntable. The Pioneer should get you very far in basic listening enjoyment.

I paid 36$ for it but I need to replace the belt! I don't think I will struggle to resell it and do some profit so by the time I find something better I will spin it!

There is some TT for sale at ~200$ right now but I don't know if they are the kind of better you are talking:

Hitachi PS-48
Realistic Lab-400
Yamaha YP-66

If so, let me know I might grab one of them!

 

[Shrugg]

I paid 36$ for it but I need to replace the belt! I don't think I will struggle to resell it and do some profit so by the time I find something better I will spin it!

There is some TT for sale at ~200$ right now but I don't know if they are the kind of better you are talking:

Hitachi PS-48
Realistic Lab-400
Yamaha YP-66

If so, let me know I might grab one of them!

Those are good turntables, but are overpriced, even by ebay standards, so i would pass them up. Besides, you have some great starter turntables already, no need to rush for an upgrade. I would first put my money torwards a good cartridge, mount it on either of you turntables, and you'll have a killer system for little cost. No need to upgrade for now, IMO, unless you "accidentally" stumble upon a great deal. For now, i would sit back and enjoy the music.

 

[Balifly]

Hitachi PS-48


If so, let me know I might grab one of them!

The Hitachi PS-48 is probably the best performer of the three listed.
https://www.vinylengine.com/library/hitachi/ps-48.shtml

 

[Van_Isle]

Your local kijiji has a Technics SL-1700 'Mk1' for $200. No cartridge but original headshell.

There's also a Lenco B55 for $220 (I really don't know the Lenco so I can't comment).

A Technics SL-23 for $135 (I'd rather go for the SL-1700)

Your local craigslist has a Technics SL-1300 'Mk1' for $125. Needs some work to get the auto functions going.

Lots of options.

 

[JayPare]

Your local kijiji has a Technics SL-1700 'Mk1' for $200. No cartridge but original headshell.

There's also a Lenco B55 for $220 (I really don't know the Lenco so I can't comment).

A Technics SL-23 for $135 (I'd rather go for the SL-1700)

Your local craigslist has a Technics SL-1300 'Mk1' for $125. Needs some work to get the auto functions going.

Lots of options.

GFAF (like WAF, but with girlfriend), she hates greyish plastic design! :/ I kinda too tbh. We are more into woodish design.

 

[Van_Isle]

You could always build a KAB-like wood drop-in cabinet .... https://www.kabusa.com/frameset.htm?/m1200.htm No longer available but the plans are ... just modify the design dimensions.

 

[JayPare]

You could always build a KAB-like wood drop-in cabinet .... https://www.kabusa.com/frameset.htm?/m1200.htm No longer available but the plans are ... just modify the design dimensions.

Wow that's a nice idea!

Concerning the Technics, what's the hype around them? What makes them so good?

Also, the SL-1700 ad says it's almost as good as the SL-1200. I would have thought the 1700 was superior to the 1200? I know the 1200 is very popular, but again, why?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Van_Isle]

No the numbering scheme doesn't coincide with placement in the lineup. The SL-1200 / 1210 is the better table. The SL-2000 for example is inferior to the SL-1700. The SL-1300 is pretty much on par with the SL-1700. Now the SL-1700 Mk2 (the one we are discussing is a Mk1) is electronically and in terms of components like tonearm, is identical to the SL1200 but different suspension and plinth, etc.