Problem with MVp861

[phil_er_up]

I traded in my mcd201 for a mvp861 yesterday. Too many problems with the 201 to keep it. Since I have always been a 2 channel stereo person, I am having a problem with the video on the MVP861.

For video, since I don't have a A/V receiever:
I hooked up the MVP861 is straight to a TV using a 3 way (R,W,Y) RCA plug. The TV is a Sony Trinatron and I hooked it up to the video 1 inputs. Then I hook up the MVP 861 stereo balanced outs to the Mcintosh 6900 CD1 balanced inputs. Audio cd's, sacd, dvd-r all work. The mvp861 plays my NTSC dvd videos but there is no color.

To trouble shoot, I took out the R and W RCA plugs from the back of the TV and the picture was still there in BW without the R or W plugs from the RCA plug with just the Y plug in. So I think it is a cord issue or I don't know enough about video to make an intelligent decision.

What am I doing wrong?
Should I be using S-video with NTSC dvd's?

Thanks.

Patrick

 

[Victor]

Just so we don't overlook the obvious lets start with the basics. What color are the RCA jacks you are using on your TV? If the TV jack is yellow you just need a single RCA cable from the MVP871 to your TV, make sure to use the yellow jacks on the TV and MVP871. This is the composite video hook up. This is the worst connection for video.

A S-video cable will give you a better picture than the "yellow RCA" cable.

An even better video hook up is the component video hook up. This is the 3 RCA jacks that are red, green and blue. just make sure you have the 3 RCA cables going to the correct jacks, red-red...

Victor

 

[Little Nellie]

how about a picture of the connectors of your Sony? may be from that, we can see what connections can be made.


LN

 

[phil_er_up]

First thanks Victor for the feedback.

Just so we don't overlook the obvious lets start with the basics. What color are the RCA jacks you are using on your TV?

[/QUOTE]Yellow, white and red for the Y output, PB output and PR output. I made sure the red color wire matched the correct color for the plug in for both the TV and the MVP871. I tried another cord. I did the obvious by making sure I connected it up properly and tried another cord.

Don't do much with video, so not sure what to do next.

 

[PHC1]

Make sure all your wires are color coded and plugged into the "same input", eg. "Video 1", etc... I once plugged my wires across multiple inputs instead of the same one because I couldn't see too well in the back of TV. The rows or "banks" of inputs can be misleading.

 

[Victor]

Well for now the simple answer is to use a S-video cable. The S-video cable will give you a very good picture and it will only plug in one way, so it is nearly impossible to plug it in wrong.

Victor

 

[Glenee]

The standard set of cables shipped with Red, White, and Yellow are to be used for red right channel, White left channel, and Yellow for video only. The problem you have is that the Red and white of your set are not 75ohm. Try three yellow ones marked to color match the outputs on the back of the 861 to the color match on the back of the TV. Do not use the white and red for video, use these for audio only. The best way is to purchase a set of component cables three in all with color matching plugs for video all 75 ohm and then use the Red and white for left right audio and leave the yellow cable disconnected. You may have to then go into the TV menu and tell it to use component connection for that Video 1, Video 2, Etc. Make sure that when you do hook this up that the video and the audio jacks on the back of the tv match Video1,Video2 Etc. Hope this Helps,:thmbsp:
Glenee

 

[TSmith8605]

For video, since I don't have a A/V receiever:
I hooked up the MVP861 is straight to a TV using a 3 way (R,W,Y) RCA plug. The TV is a Sony Trinatron and I hooked it up to the video 1 inputs.

What am I doing wrong?
Should I be using S-video with NTSC dvd's?

Thanks.

Patrick

Is your TV a widescreen HD set or standard definition? (I have seen SD TVs with component input.)

The following only applies if you have a standard def TV.

You need to let the MVP know which kind of TV you have. If you have a standard def TV, connect the player to the TV with a composite or S-Video cable. If that works, use the MVP on-screen menus to setup the 861 for interlaced output (not progressive scan) and 4:3 screen ratio.

The MVP861 comes out of the box in interlaced mode, but if you got yours used or as demo model it may be in the progressive mode.

Once you get the player in interlaced mode, you could go back to using the component connections to get a better picture.

This from the MVP861 Manual, page 23:

"DO NOT ACTIVATE the MVP681 DVD
Player’s Progressive Video Display Mode
unless you are certain that the TV/Monitor
connected to the MVP861 is capable of
displaying a Progressive Scan Signal. Failure
to do so could result in possible damage to the
TV/Monitor. In order to view the Progressive
Scan Video Output of the MVP861, the TV/
Monitor connected to it must be capable of
displaying a Progressive Picture and setup to
display the Progressive Signal."

If you have an HD TV, the above suggestion will not help you.

Terry in Sunnyvale

 

[phil_er_up]

First off I thank all of you for taking your time and trying to help me out.

Is your TV a widescreen HD set or standard definition? (I have seen SD TVs with component input.)

I am using a std TV for this application, it is a sony trinitron about 10 years old.On the back of the tv are 1 input connection for input 1. The color of the 3 connection on the back of the tv are white, red and yellow. I also have a s-video connection on the back of the tv. After turing the tv around you are correct the yellow is for video and the red and white are for audio.

So if I understand correctly I need to use the s-video between the tv and the mvp, then set the mvp setting to interlaced and not progressive and set screen ratio to 4:3.

Is that correct?

 

[Victor]

First off I thank all of you for taking your time and trying to help me out.



I am using a std TV for this application, it is a sony trinitron about 10 years old.On the back of the tv are 1 input connection for input 1. The color of the 3 connection on the back of the tv are white, red and yellow. I also have a s-video connection on the back of the tv. After turing the tv around you are correct the yellow is for video and the red and white are for audio.

So if I understand correctly I need to use the s-video between the tv and the mvp, then set the mvp setting to interlaced and not progressive and set screen ratio to 4:3.

Is that correct?

Now you got it, that should work great. :yes:

Victor

 

[Victor]

If you don't have a S-vidio cable at home you can hook the single composite "yellow RCA" output on the MVP871 up to the single yellow input on your TV for now. I would still recomend getting a S-video cable though because it will give you a better picture.

Victor

 

[Little Nellie]

First off I thank all of you for taking your time and trying to help me out.



I am using a std TV for this application, it is a sony trinitron about 10 years old.On the back of the tv are 1 input connection for input 1. The color of the 3 connection on the back of the tv are white, red and yellow. I also have a s-video connection on the back of the tv. After turing the tv around you are correct the yellow is for video and the red and white are for audio.

I don't think component connections was available 10 years ago. Most likely you are trying to connect component output of your 861 to the composite input of your TV.

From your description, looks like S-video or composite is your only choice.

LN

 

[TSmith8605]

First off I thank all of you for taking your time and trying to help me out.



I am using a std TV for this application, it is a sony trinitron about 10 years old.On the back of the tv are 1 input connection for input 1. The color of the 3 connection on the back of the tv are white, red and yellow. I also have a s-video connection on the back of the tv. After turing the tv around you are correct the yellow is for video and the red and white are for audio.

So if I understand correctly I need to use the s-video between the tv and the mvp, then set the mvp setting to interlaced and not progressive and set screen ratio to 4:3.

Is that correct?

We have now established that your TV does not have component input so the interlaced vs progressive mode does not matter. Progressive mode is only available through the component outputs. The composite video and S-video outputs are interlaced no matter how the MVP is set.

The red and white inputs on the TV are for left and right audio. The yellow is for composite video.

So you should hook the red and white cable to the unbalance audio outputs on the MVP861, if you want to hear the sound on the TV's speakers, and the single yellow cable to the single yellow video output of the MVP861. As others have mentioned, you can substitute an S-video cabled
for the composite video cable if your TV has an S-video input.

While you don't care about interlaced vs progressive, you should still make sure the MVP knows you have a 4:3 TV -otherwise your images will be squished.

Please let us know if you get it working.

Terry in Sunnyvale

 

[phil_er_up]

We have now established that your TV does not have component input so the interlaced vs progressive mode does not matter. Progressive mode is only available through the component outputs. The composite video and S-video outputs are interlaced no matter how the MVP is set.

The red and white inputs on the TV are for left and right audio. The yellow is for composite video.

So you should hook the red and white cable to the unbalance audio outputs on the MVP861, if you want to hear the sound on the TV's speakers, and the single yellow cable to the single yellow video output of the MVP861. As others have mentioned, you can substitute an S-video cabled
for the composite video cable if your TV has an S-video input.

While you don't care about interlaced vs progressive, you should still make sure the MVP knows you have a 4:3 TV -otherwise your images will be squished.

Please let us know if you get it working.

Terry in Sunnyvale

Thanks again for everyones input.

I currently have the RCA plug hooked up as follows from the back of the tv:
red and white cable to the unbalance audio outputs on the MVP861 and the
single yellow cable to the single yellow video output of the MVP861.
Changed progressive setting to interlaced on MVP861
Changed setting to 4:3 TV on MVP861

I ordered a s-video input cable yesterday, but won't be here till next week.

Thanks again.