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Quad 11L Classic

Permanent Waves said:
And the L2 series was supposed to be a significant/dramatic improvement over the original series...
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I wasn't talking about marketing from the company but rather more objective reports from consumers and reviewers. Most of them believed that the L2 was a backwards step from the original series. I'm not here to discuss theories about marketing this is a thread that I started about the Quad 11L Classic.
 
cj.tt said:
Sorry to hear you received the wrong color speakers. I can see that being very annoying.

I know I'm reviewing different Quads (11L2), but I thought I'd chime in. I feel that these speakers perform much better in larger rooms. Especially in the lower octaves. In my 20x20 living room they sounded beautiful compared to in my 10x10' office.
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I'm starting them out where they will live most of the time which is indeed in the bigger room. Just having listened to them a little bit I can already see how your observation could be spot on.
 
And i think it is logical to say all the compagnie out there will tell us thier new line is an improvement over the older one.
 
komoyuki said:
And i think it is logical to say all the compagnie out there will tell us thier new line is an improvement over the older one.
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As I said I am not going by the marketing...I am reporting other consumer and reviewer observations. I was not born yesterday!
 
Really sorry to hear that the finish was wrong Art, hate is a strong word but thats how I feel when I have to put myself out because of someone else's mistake and the time and money this involves. Hopefully the supplier will make this good without too much inconvenience to you.
 
Thank you, Gavin. I talked to the dealer this morning and he is going to send out a cherry set today. He will also send a return label so that when the new ones arrive I can box up the others and take them to the local UPS store. I'll only be out a bit of packing tape and the gas to take them to UPS store. I can live with that. I am quite tired of boxing stuff up, but such is life. In the big scheme...no biggie.
 
Art K. said:
I wasn't talking about marketing from the company but rather more objective reports from consumers and reviewers. Most of them believed that the L2 was a backwards step from the original series. I'm not here to discuss theories about marketing this is a thread that I started about the Quad 11L Classic.
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Yes, I have read the same. I also owned the 12L2 and they were fun for a bit but I ultimately decided to pass. Everyone and every system differs though, the L2 speakers certainly have some fans.

Lookin' forward to the writeup, Art.
 
It appears that the dealer, IAG and Quad have different ideas about the spec of the 11L Classic. I am trying to sort that out. The dealer website and IAG Quad have the low frequency response at 48hz +/-3db and the owners manual says 68hz +/-3db. A significant difference and the former played a large part in my purchasing them for the living room. Otherwise I would have probably tried the MA Silver RX1. My ears tell me that the latter spec is correct. I have en email in to Quad, IAG and the dealer.
 
Art K. said:
It appears that the dealer, IAG and Quad have different ideas about the spec of the 11L Classic. I am trying to sort that out. The dealer website and IAG Quad have the low frequency response at 48hz +/-3db and the owners manual says 68hz +/-3db. A significant difference and the former played a large part in my purchasing them for the living room. Otherwise I would have probably tried the MA Silver RX1. My ears tell me that the latter spec is correct. I have en email in to Quad, IAG and the dealer.
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Not to be a wise guy but the size of the enclosure would tell me that 48hz is optimistic even with port tuning but I know you know this, the Tablette's claim bass down 35hz which is complete tosh. I don't know what Wharfedale claim for their Diamond 10.1 but they produce ridiculous quantities of bass for their size, they have one big lazy booty.

So are your thinking separation already?
 
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Spektre said:
So are your thinking separation already?
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Not yet. Hell, I don't even my pair to break in yet. They shipped yesterday. Gotta remember I owned Totem Rainmakers and they weren't kidding when they claimed 45hz!

I'm listening to the Quads today with my Marantz SR5005 AVR on Pure Direct with the Rega Apollo and fussing with placement. I already did a brief comparison to the Wharfedale Diamond 9.1...yeah definitely a flabby bottom end...still a nice speaker for the $229 I bought them for. I bought the Quads for $449 and they are certainly worth that plus some. Much more listening to do. Especially now that I have to adjust my expectations. One thing I'll say is that the Quads like to be very far apart and into the room. They also like power, lots of it. I may need to invest in a quality biwire speaker cable.
 
Art K. said:
The Quads are sounding pretty damn good tonight playing John Zorn's "Dreamers".
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What do you enjoy most about them?

I find the mid-range is very unique on Quad speakers. Might not be the most natural sound. Overall they are a pleasure to listen to.
 
cj.tt said:
What do you enjoy most about them?

I find the mid-range is very unique on Quad speakers. Might not be the most natural sound. Overall they are a pleasure to listen to.
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They are just beginning to open up tonight. They sounded like ass straight out of the box to be quite honest. They just sounded weird. Very closed in and well, weird. I'll explain later.

I think the the Quad ESL's have a very natural midrange and so I can't say without a caveat that Quads don't have a natural midrange and that's my lead in to say, again, that the L2 and the Classic are different. It would be nice to have them together to compare but I don't. So far as they open up I think the midrange is quite nice. The upper midrange through the very top end of it's range is definitely different than any speaker I've owned.
 
Art K. said:
They are just beginning to open up tonight. They sounded like ass straight out of the box to be quite honest. They just sounded weird. Very closed in and well, weird. I'll explain later.

I think the the Quad ESL's have a very natural midrange and so I can't say without a caveat that Quads don't have a natural midrange and that's my lead in to say, again, that the L2 and the Classic are different. It would be nice to have them together to compare but I don't. So far as they open up I think the midrange is quite nice. The upper midrange through the very top end of it's range is definitely different than any speaker I've owned.
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I was told 100 hour break-in period from the salesperson at the local hi-fi shop and he claims the 11L2 as his reference speaker.
 
cj.tt said:
I was told 100 hour break-in period from the salesperson at the local hi-fi shop and he claims the 11L2 as his reference speaker.
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There is definitely a significant break in and I don't think I've heard a speaker change this much...and dagnnabbit I have to do it over again next week with my pair!

These are really getting nice. My wife was in my home office and the Quads are out in the living room. She was looking at the far wall of my office for where the sound was coming from. I pointed the opposite direction to the living room and she raised her eyebrows. For folks who dig the the whole 3 dimensional disappearing act gig this is your speaker. I also find that so far that they are well grounded giving very realistic portrayals of instruments and female vocals are quite good.
 
Just off the phone with the U.S. distributor for Quad and he was quite clear that the owner's manual and literature are incorrect. He stated that the 11L Classic is indeed good to 48hz +/-3db which is an improvement over the 11L2 which was 45hz +/-6 db. He said that it is an embarrassing misprint that he has been dealing with for awhile. The more they open up the more I believe that. I'm really not wanting for much of anything with these. Very impressive little speaker.
 
Art K. said:
These are really getting nice. My wife was in my home office and the Quads are out in the living room. She was looking at the far wall of my office for where the sound was coming from. I pointed the opposite direction to the living room and she raised her eyebrows. For folks who dig the the whole 3 dimensional disappearing act gig this is your speaker.
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Exactly. They fill a room nicely. I might buy 11l classics just for fun. $500 for a speaker is nothing especially if they're better than the l2 series.
 
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