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Quick Kef 104aB review

I have had a pair of stock 104aBs and still have a pair of stock Concerto's. If you like the 104aBs (stands for advanced Butterworth) and you have a high current amp, you will love the Concerto's if you ever get a chance.They both love high current amplification. Especially over 100 watts of it, even though they are only rated at 30 to 50 depending on your information source. You want the extra power for when the bass goes really low.

I had a pair of Celestion Ditton 44's and the Concerto's, driven by a restored Sansui 9090, sounded good but not great. When I got a restored Kenwood Supreme 500 though, the Concerto's were suddenly very special! Bass is awesome! I use Sk8tr Boi by Avril Lavigne to test out bass. If it is good in your system, you will know exactly what I'm talking about as soon as you hear it. Amazing almost subsonic bass that will raise the hair on the back of your neck.
 
I have a pair of 104aBs. They were given to me by an AK friend.
The kit from Falcon Acoustics is now here and I hope to get it in over the holiday weekend.
 
I have a pair of 104aBs. They were given to me by an AK friend.
The kit from Falcon Acoustics is now here and I hope to get it in over the holiday weekend.

You're a very lucky guy and a nice AK karma gesture. Will await your review.
 
I'll start off my review by saying that I heard my first pair of Chartwell LS3/5As in the late 1970s and fell in love with the accuracy they delivered. During a five year sound reinforcement career, I strived to deliver the accuracy and clarity of the LS3/5A, Quad ESL-57 panels and KEF 105s that I heard in a local stereo store back then. I live in the heart of the East Coast Sound country, but these speakers made me feel that they had no coloration rather than an East Coast or West Coast sound. There was nothing to get used to and nothing to rationalize, saying I'd get used to it. They simply delivered what was fed into them.

So, I have a history with these KEFs. I've had and sold LS3/5As and KEF 103.2s and was a member of the Yahoo LS3/5A forum for years. So, my review is probably not objective.

While I loved the KEFs back in the day, I've never heard a KEF uni-Q driver yet that I could love. That's a driver with the tweeter in the middle of it. I still find that I just don't love even the KEF LS-50, though the room I heard them in may have something to do with that. I've yet to hear the new reference KEFs or the blades. I retain an open mind and would like to hear the new lines. The look of the blades doesn't thrill me though.
The early KEFs with separate tweeters, such as the T27 tweeter in the LS3/5A, Rogers JR-149, and KEF 104aB is my favorite of this ilk.

I did restore a pair of KEF 104/2s a few years back, but I did not replace any of the crossover caps or even know about the ferrofluid that needs to be renewed in the T-33 tweeters. Inexperience I guess. So, I've been a KEF separates man. I did feel that the 104/2 was a big speaker, with five drivers. It should have gotten plenty loud, but I didn't like them loud.

These days, I'm a Spendor speaker man. I have had a pair of what is probably the best Spendor BC1s on either American continent, and those were fully restored with the help of Terry Miles. Presently, I have Spendors on three systems, including my home theater speakers and I use Rogers JR-149s in my electronics room. I have a pair of A9s in my reference system and they're not going anywhere.

I'd been looking for some good sized speakers that will reliably go loud for a party room we built that the kids use.

After a recent Leak Stereo 20 restoration I did for an AK'er, he showed up with this pair of KEF 104aBs that he gave me as a gift when picking up his amp. I was truly surprised. We hooked them up and one tweeter was out. It was the fuse. After replacing the fuse (I've still got to get a pair of the right value), the tweeter came back immediately. I gave him the opportunity to ungive the speakers to me, but he didn't take the bait and therefore I still have them.

They're a bit rough looking, finish-wise, but I believe that the finish will be ok after some veneer repairs and a sanding and refinish.

I listened to them in that party room and, while they were clear, it was obvious that some of the midrange was lacking. So, I ordered replacement 2% caps from Falcon Acoustics. They test caps on a Wayne Kerr (not Wanker!) cap bridge and separate them by lots. It's not that the caps have to be within 2% of spec value, it's that they have to be within 2% of each other.

In the next post, I'll describe the cap replacement.
 
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The KEF 104aBs, to me, are a riff on two different types of speakers.
1. The East Coast Sound acoustic suspension speakers such as AR3s, Large Advents, and KLH6s.
2. The two foot square internal volume BBC large reference monitors such as the Spendor BC-1, with its exquisite midrange, and the Rogers LS3/6. The dimensions internally, are 24" high by 12" wide, by 9 1/2 inches deep, falling a bit short of the 2 square foot internal volume of the BBC large reference monitor standard, but you get the point. They're not lossy cabinets though. They're very well sealed and I'd call them acoustic suspension cabinets, though that term used in this context may read like heresy. But that's what they appear to be to me.

The grilles are held on by velcro. I had to reglue all the material on the grilles, which had loosened, but the fabric and the velcro were all in good shape.

I had to fully remove all drivers to get the crossovers out. The crossovers are attached to the midrange control and are soldered to the tweeter and woofer, and soldered onto eyelets attached to the inputs. The wire color coding is typical of the confusing color scheme the British gear of the time used, but I fully diagrammed the wire coloring.
After removing the 6x9 passive radiator, I could see the layout inside the speaker cabinet and I then removed all the rest of the drivers and the bolts holding the cover plate of the crossover/midrange control.
The color coding is:
Black/White input, with Black being + and White being -.
The woofer was Red/Black, with red being + and Black being -.
The tweeter was Blue/Black, with blue being + and Black being -.
I confirmed these polarity characteristics with a pulse based polarity checker I had. I still have to swap two wires in one of the enclosures, which was miswired from the factory. One used Black as +, the other used Black as - at the input.

Unsoldering and soldering in new components was easy. The crossover board is robust with traces that don't lift unless you're using a blow torch to unsolder.

While inside, I found a 1978 date stamp. Also, a sheet of black bitumen was stapled to each side of the enclosure as well as on the back as you can see in the picture, and the top and bottom were wrapped with form fitting foam and there were two squares of loose foam inside. Interestingly, the wire was shortened with loops and knots rather than clipped shorter to fit.

I replaced one crossover fully, then reinstalled it. The crossover had a gasket as did the T27 tweeter, but the B200 woofer and passive radiator did not. I used some closed cell foam weatherstripping that I keep around for just such occasions to make an airtight seal.

Then I took that speaker out to the garage and tried it with the unmodifed 104aB. While it definitely had more defined midrange, something wasn't quite right, but the next step was to replace the caps in the other cabinet, which I did. I was later to discover the factory polarity miswiring on the first speaker I restored by performing my pulse test. It's a pulse tester for car speakers. You run a CD that puts out pulses and hold a meter in front of the speaker. It should put out three green pulses, followed by a red pulse, following the pulses on the recording with three asking the speaker to push out, followed by one asking the speaker to pull in. Useful little gadget.

I did the second one, and brought the first speaker in the house. I set them up in my office system as near-field monitors.

Results and impressions in the next post.
 

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After doing my trusty pulse test, I discovered that simply swapping the inputs on one speaker resolved the polarity problem that I'd first observed, but hadn't been able to put my finger on, out in the function room.

Impressions:
These speakers, while physically large, are really relatively small scale two way monitors. Where the LS3/5A and JR-149s consist of KEF T27s and B110 5" bextrene woofers, the 104aB consists of KEF T27s and B200 8" bextrene woofers. While the woofer is an 8" woofer, I sense no gaps in the crossover while transitioning to the tweeter, and I don't get any sense of a narrowing radiation pattern as the frequencies go higher on the woofer. With the caps on the crossover replaced, there is no longer any woofer beaminess or directionality, which I'd called honkiness.

This is not my first experience with a pair of B200s. I had a Fried Model H subwoofer that used them in a transmission line configuration. I'd never spent much time hearing them go over about 75hz though.

Replacing the crossover caps removed the honkiness and directionality that I'd heard in the midrange prior to the recap. I actually didn't expect them to sound as good as they do. Now I'm really enjoying them. They may not be the last word in resolution, may not deliver the fastest transients or perform feats of reality suspension, but they are eminently listenable.

I've felt for quite a while that the ship has sailed on vintage speaker quality compared to newer speakers. While I do still find it to be almost universally true that driver materials and cabinet bracing of new speakers are superior, with these speakers I am reminded of the outright craftsmanship and artistry of what has come before from the best of the best manufacturers and has led to the quality that we take for granted in better speakers such as Spendors, Harbeths, better B&Ws, Wharfdales, Revels, Sonus Faber, Tidals, a host of others, and especially Magicos.

Of course, these are a mid '70s KEF design, which means that computer design was used in the driver design, probably cabinet design, crossover design, as well as testing.

As I write this, I am listening to Willie Nelson's "Red Headed Stranger". Now Willie's voice can be hard to love on less than excellent speakers and here his voice's reedy accuracy is portrayed with fine expression. Reverb trails on the guitar are not overbearing, but are present. The harmonica is not shouty at all and the piano notes are delicate and clear. On my Spendor A9s, which are wonderful, the mid-treble energy of today's more accurate voicing makes the voice just slightly nasal, where these speakers portray the chest resonance of his weed smoked lungs while making his nasal delivery far better than just palatable.

The KEF 104aB is a small scale speaker. It does not get super loud. It is not the 104/2. The 104/2 is a much more large scale speaker.
I have played Opeth, Mahler, and Mel Torme on the 104aBs today and the pair, in a near-field application, do render those musicians in a way that makes me want to continue to listen.

Bass is linear and extended, but not thumpy. I've moved the midrange control back to the middle position from the + position. After 9+ hours of listening today, I'm not fatigued and the crossovers aren't even broken in yet.

These speakers are keepers and will be coming with me to the next Frankenfest. Also, they will get the full treatment to restore the enclosures. I don't think they'll ever be the party speakers I was intending to place out in the 26x13 function room, but they will have a place in my heart, in my life, and in one of my systems.

The tweeters are a bit below my ear listening level, and this setup cannot remain after this week, but I sure am enjoying it now. Other listeners have been correct. In near-field listening, these are great.

I'm going to look and see if Falcon Acoustics has cap kits for my JR-149s now :scratch2:
 

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Hi audiodon
Your last three posts were an absolute pleasure to read. As a long time KEF owner, I get it! Been thinking about my crossovers recently but can't imagine the 103/3s sounding any better. Yah,I know-30 years old but they just sound so good.
(Tweeters done)
As good as they are, I've been glued in front of the Spendor A6r for months.
Too many speakers-too little time!
Happy listening.
Jimmy
 
Don, as usual your insight and diligence are commendable. For those who don't know (and even Don might not know) Don has been a bit of a mentor for me as I experiment with different audiophilic experiences. And the reason for that is because of his thoughtful and thorough descriptions such as the one he's laid out before us in these prior posts.

I have never heard the 104aB, but I have always wanted to. I can't wait to see and hear them at the next get together in Mass. I have to agree with Don's assessment of the 104/2. The 104/2 is a big speaker that plays like a big speaker. That's not to say it doesn't have a delicate and calculated approach at low volumes, but the speakers tend to reveal weaknesses in upstream gear moreso than other speakers I have auditioned. In a sense, I have tuned my system specifically to the 104/2, but the results in my opinion have been unmatched. What strikes me the most is how effortless the bass is, with deep, authoritative presence, but without any boominess. In fact, artifacts in the room resonate less with the 104/2 than they do with other speakers, yet the bass seems fuller, more composed. I did reflow the tweeters on mine and it made a difference. A huge difference? Not really, but it was noticeable. The biggest change I noticed was how much smoother and cleaner the midrange become with the FalconUK 2% caps placed on the boards. But really what's made the 104/2 shine have been the super clean 205 wpc power coming from the TAD mono blocks. The power delivery, damping factor, and headroom are exactly what these speakers need to shine, at any volume.

I have to disagree somewhat with Don's assessment of the KEF Uni-Q systems. Although my ReferenceOne "FrankenKEF" is a hybrid of off-the-shelf parts, it somehow, some way, portrays the same familial qualities of others in the KEF line. Does it sound the same as the 104/2, certainly not. The bass, for one, is not nearly as deep and involving (one 6 inch woofer vs two 8 inch woofers have a lot to do with that!). But the upper end, and especially the spatial presentation, are damn near identical to the 104/2. The timbre/voicing of the drivers are of a similar quality. I think that is something remarkable considering these speakers were separated by 14 years, multiple changes in consumer tastes, financial decisions, and technologies...AND, they aren't even REAL ReferenceOnes!

The only other speaker that I have heard that comes close to KEF in terms of it's sonic resemblance is the RSL CG-8 Squared. Although I have not restored them yet, and I have not A/B'd them against the 104/2, there's a certain quality to their sound that reminds me of the 104/2. Now, consider this. The RSLs are a completely different design. a D'Appolitto 8"/1"/8" driver arrangement in a large, 115 lb, transmission line enclosure. They are completely different from the 104/2 in almost every way, yet the sound bears a close resemblance. That's amazing to me and one of the reasons I have come back to this hobby and have such fond memories of this hobby from my childhood.

Thanks again for posting a great project and thanks to all of the contributors for such great discourse.

Cheers
baco
 
I'm having trouble removing these speakers from my office system, even though they're reinforced on their stands with stacks of CD jewel cases in case the cats get the brilliant idea to climb on top of them.

Now they've got 50+ hours on the crossover recap and have settled in nicely.
 
Thank you for outstanding notes and experts explanation of the KEF speakers.
I have owned several KEF speakers, 104/2, 105s, and 107s.
They are superb speakers. I sold all JBL and Altec speakers once I am used to listening to these KEFs.
Now I have to get a pair of 104aB too.


After doing my trusty pulse test, I discovered that simply swapping the inputs on one speaker resolved the polarity problem that I'd first observed, but hadn't been able to put my finger on, out in the function room.

Impressions:
These speakers, while physically large, are really relatively small scale two way monitors. Where the LS3/5A and JR-149s consist of KEF T27s and B110 5" bextrene woofers, the 104aB consists of KEF T27s and B200 8" bextrene woofers. While the woofer is an 8" woofer, I sense no gaps in the crossover while transitioning to the tweeter, and I don't get any sense of a narrowing radiation pattern as the frequencies go higher on the woofer. With the caps on the crossover replaced, there is no longer any woofer beaminess or directionality, which I'd called honkiness.

This is not my first experience with a pair of B200s. I had a Fried Model H subwoofer that used them in a transmission line configuration. I'd never spent much time hearing them go over about 75hz though.

Replacing the crossover caps removed the honkiness and directionality that I'd heard in the midrange prior to the recap. I actually didn't expect them to sound as good as they do. Now I'm really enjoying them. They may not be the last word in resolution, may not deliver the fastest transients or perform feats of reality suspension, but they are eminently listenable.

I've felt for quite a while that the ship has sailed on vintage speaker quality compared to newer speakers. While I do still find it to be almost universally true that driver materials and cabinet bracing of new speakers are superior, with these speakers I am reminded of the outright craftsmanship and artistry of what has come before from the best of the best manufacturers and has led to the quality that we take for granted in better speakers such as Spendors, Harbeths, better B&Ws, Wharfdales, Revels, Sonus Faber, Tidals, a host of others, and especially Magicos.

Of course, these are a mid '70s KEF design, which means that computer design was used in the driver design, probably cabinet design, crossover design, as well as testing.

As I write this, I am listening to Willie Nelson's "Red Headed Stranger". Now Willie's voice can be hard to love on less than excellent speakers and here his voice's reedy accuracy is portrayed with fine expression. Reverb trails on the guitar are not overbearing, but are present. The harmonica is not shouty at all and the piano notes are delicate and clear. On my Spendor A9s, which are wonderful, the mid-treble energy of today's more accurate voicing makes the voice just slightly nasal, where these speakers portray the chest resonance of his weed smoked lungs while making his nasal delivery far better than just palatable.

The KEF 104aB is a small scale speaker. It does not get super loud. It is not the 104/2. The 104/2 is a much more large scale speaker.
I have played Opeth, Mahler, and Mel Torme on the 104aBs today and the pair, in a near-field application, do render those musicians in a way that makes me want to continue to listen.

Bass is linear and extended, but not thumpy. I've moved the midrange control back to the middle position from the + position. After 9+ hours of listening today, I'm not fatigued and the crossovers aren't even broken in yet.

These speakers are keepers and will be coming with me to the next Frankenfest. Also, they will get the full treatment to restore the enclosures. I don't think they'll ever be the party speakers I was intending to place out in the 26x13 function room, but they will have a place in my heart, in my life, and in one of my systems.

The tweeters are a bit below my ear listening level, and this setup cannot remain after this week, but I sure am enjoying it now. Other listeners have been correct. In near-field listening, these are great.

I'm going to look and see if Falcon Acoustics has cap kits for my JR-149s now :scratch2:
 
The tweeters are a bit below my ear listening level, and this setup cannot remain after this week, but I sure am enjoying it now. Other listeners have been correct. In near-field listening, these are great.
Love the jewel case speaker stands!
 
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