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Record stuff on Pawn Stars

sloober

sloober

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Watching Pawn Stars last night I saw several record related items. A guy brought in a copy of Bob Dylan "Self Portrait". Was amazed he thought it was worth like $150! Think he ended up selling it to them for $50. I think I would have paid $2 as it was a double album. Then they sent "Chumlee" to go find Bob Dylan at a local place he was playing. He wanted to get it autographed so they could sell it for more cash. Well, he did find him and had it signed (to Chumlee, Bob Dylan) Not exactly what he wanted signed on the album...

Then a guy came in with a contract for the Who to play Woodstock. Said he found it at a garage sale with some records. Idiots at the pawn shop paid him $200 for it. When they presented it to the boss who is a big Who fan, he told them it came with one of the Who records back then... Funny ****.

I also notice a commercial for Ritz Crackers where they were spinning records at a party. All the records were shaped like big Ritz crackers!
 
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They also bought a Beatles Butcher cover. It was pasted over with the trunk cover and the owner of the pawn shop explained how you could tell the the front cover was pasted on by looking at the corners.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but I think the original pressings of that album all have the cover pasted on whether is has a butcher below it or not. I was thinking the only way to tell was Ringo's v-neck. I've seen a few in person and it's pretty obvious.
 
You gotta remember these are the same guys that will pay $33,000 for an 1850 Double Eagle gold piece too... and the fact that they have the money to do that and have been in business as long as they have kinda says something.. .

ALL business people make a bad investment here and there, It's the long run that matters...

BTW.. I saw a guy that brought in an old Edison with a few "records" for it... and they paid a fair price, yet left them selves enough room for profit to pay the overhead...

They know what they are doing. Granted, Cory screwed up with the Who LP, but you know he will never make that mistake again..

And yes, a collector probably would pay $150 for that LP, especially with Chumlee's name on it, especially since they can provide proof of the signature is real by including a recording of the show.

I'd give a lot more than $150 for that LP...

I love how people are so quick to slam someone's business dealing, and may have no idea what it's like to run their own business. Everyone makes mistakes, it's if you learned something or not that's important.
 
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You gotta remember these are the same guys that will pay $33,000 for an 1850 Double Eagle gold piece too... and the fact that they have the money to do that and have been in business as long as they have kinda says something.. .

ALL business people make a bad investment here and there, It's the long run that matters...

BTW.. I saw a guy that brought in an old Edison with a few "records" for it... and they paid a fair price, yet left them selves enough room for profit to pay the overhead...

They know what they are doing. Granted, Cory screwed up with the Who LP, but you know he will never make that mistake again..

And yes, a collector probably would pay $150 for that LP, especially with Chumlee's name on it, especially since they can provide proof of the signature is real by including a recording of the show.

I'd give a lot more than $150 for that LP...

I love how people are so quick to slam someone's business dealing, and may have no idea what it's like to run their own business. Everyone makes mistakes, it's if you learned something or not that's important.
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Relax. It's a TV show.

Quick note for you: Most of that show is staged. Those are actors and extras bringing stuff in.
 
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They also bought a Beatles Butcher cover. It was pasted over with the trunk cover and the owner of the pawn shop explained how you could tell the the front cover was pasted on by looking at the corners.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but I think the original pressings of that album all have the cover pasted on whether is has a butcher below it or not. I was thinking the only way to tell was Ringo's v-neck. I've seen a few in person and it's pretty obvious.
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I saw that episode. The owner's son said...."The Beatles, weren't they like the first boy band? They had a few good songs but all the rest were crap!" He also said that there would someday be "80 year old Snoop Dog fans that remembered his stuff." Hope that's not the opinion of most young people these days of The Beatles! I guess not, considering how many Beatles songs/albums were sold on iTunes recently! That kid seems pretty full of himself on that show. I stopped watching the show, because IMO they usually try to rip the customer off! "American Pickers" seems more down to earth and fair, when it comes to buying people's treasures.
 
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stencil said:
Relax. It's a TV show.

Quick note for you: Most of that show is staged. Those are actors and extras bringing stuff in.
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It just gets to me how around here someone always has something bad to say about anyone that runs a business. Whether it's a flipper, a manufacturer, or something else. People around here don't like prices others pay and similar stuff.

It's like watching Pickers last night. A guy on there was asking fair retail prices. The prices he paid. He even said, he understood they needed things to be cheap because they were in business to make money, but he was not, and was a collector, so he paid collector prices... The buck has to stop with someone..

As far as them being extras and actors bringing in stuff... can you prove that? I can see maybe they had bought something at one time, so they do bring in someone to "resell" it to them, so we can get an idea of how they do business, but you make the claim like you have inside knowledge...
 
They are in the business to make money, not pay what something would bring at auction. A customer is free to walk away if he doesn't like the deal. And It is the responisibility of the customer to research their item and learn what it may be worth then expect to get maybe 1/3 of that at a pawn shop.

Staged or not, it's just a TV show and intended for entertainment only.

As for the Pickers show, they pay too much as far as I'm concerned. How can you drive a small van all over the country, pay $100 for something and be excited that it may bring $150? I'm sure they make more from the show than from flipping stuff.
 
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JohnMac said:
It's just a TV show and intended for entertainment only.
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There is a lot of knowledge to be learned from the show too.... like KNOW YOUR ITEM... Know how to barter, understand what it takes to run a business, so on and so forth..
 
the Dylan signing part was totally staged. If you look carefully, you see two big body guards in the background. Chumley would never gotten near Bobby if it wasn't pre arranged
 
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the Dylan signing part was totally staged. If you look carefully, you see two big body guards in the background. Chumley would never gotten near Bobby if it wasn't pre arranged
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Oh yeah.. no doubt about that being staged.. like Bob Dylan would be walking around on the streets of Vegas and that findable... And I bet they made a hell of a nice profit off that LP even if it actually came from Rick's collection and he had it for 20 years and didn't actually buy it.. .

As far as the Pickers.. I have to wonder too how they make a living making $50 off a piece here and there...

I'm sure there's more to their business that we're not seeing... and I would almost bet they have other types of ventures they don't talk about.

THe coolest thing I've ever seen though, was last night when they paid $700 for two 1940's Freak Show canvas signs, and flipped them for $10,000... then went back to the guy they bought them from and handed him $5000... now THAT'S KARMA! I've liked those guys the way they do business (most the time) but boy did that give me a hell of a lot of respect for them.
 
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As far as the Pickers.. I have to wonder too how they make a living making $50 off a piece here and there...
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The fact that they're now paid actors on a TV show sort of makes their core business less important. No trying to be rude, but I'm sure the TV contract pays a lot more than the business ever did.
 
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The fact that they're now paid actors on a TV show sort of makes their core business less important. No trying to be rude, but I'm sure the TV contract pays a lot more than the business ever did.
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Told my wife last week I'm sure that's how they fund their love for collecting and selling stuff... and that if it wasn't for the show being on TV, they would probably be not traveling near as much..
 
What I want to know is how the hell those camera crews are in those storage units that they had to cut the locks off?
 
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Easy guys. TV is fantasy and entertainment. Even if they call it "reality", its not.

I love these two shows. (Pawn Stars, American Pickers). I think the Pawn Stars is more realistic as far as day to day pawn business. I seriously doubt that Pickers is very real. I've know some Pickers and even the sweetest kindest ones will allow the best deal they can get, that is, pay as little as possible and not share the wealth. It's a tricky business and total profit margin is slim.

As far as shows, both of these are now "owned" by the network. Try to find a web page to buy anything from them. All you'll get is web pages trying to sell you T-shirts and coffee mugs and crap. All merchandise from the network. GAWD, with the publicity, you'd think they could make a fortune peddling the stuff online, HA, nada!
That is why Monster Garage went away. Jesse got fed up with being a corporate puppet. He just wanted to build cool stuff and live his life his way and when the BS out weighed the $, he bailed. At least that's what I gathered from what I could find out.

Remember folks, they will put ANYTHING in between the commercials to try and get people to watch....the commercials!
 
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I agree completely.. it is entertainment, but you can learn a little while watching...

I wasn't surprised to see Jessie do what he did either. I'm a lot the same way... Ain't no kinda bullshit worth the money of selling your soul and being told hot to live you life like those shows do...

It's the same thing with the two brothers on Deadliest Catch. Now they are even being sued by Discovery for telling them to piss off and get out of their lives... All the want to do is fish... For some, it really isn't the money that makes them happy.
 
Look what the fame and $ did to the Teutuls on American Chopper.

Maybe we should spend more time listening to Bob Dylan and less time watching the boob tube.
 
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Actually maybe in ways what happened on OCC was a good thing. Make the kids get out into the real world and earn their own living instead of riding coat tails everywhere.. .

Jr. for the longest time didn't do crap, but now that he's had to get out there and open his own shop, maybe he'll start to understand the meaning of a honest day's work...

Mikey... I think he's a lost cause... hopefully he's learned you can't drink your life away and have daddy keep on carrying you...

And Sr... he's just a flat out ass...
 
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