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Shominy said:
Well, that *IS* the purpose of this thread. :rolleyes:
Your post makes it sound like nothing reported or suggested is considered.
THAT's the real shame.

I wold like to think that you don't speak for the Staff.
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Considering all the moderation staff are NON COMPENSATED VOLUNTEERS and its a VERY NICE weekend day I certainly understand Heather's point

Frannie
 
buglegirl said:
Considering all the moderation staff are NON COMPENSATED VOLUNTEERS and its a VERY NICE weekend day I certainly understand Heather's point

Frannie
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That's very thin and specious at best. I volunteer at a few things and have never considered my role in the way that was described. No one is conscripted into volunteering- it is a choice, and not one which allows (me) outs when "the weather is good" or it's inconvenient to be a volunteer.

Back to regular programming...
 
hjames said:
Its too nice a day outside to sit and read whines - have a great day!
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This post reminds me of a "Let them eat cake" attitude.

"Qu'ils mangent de la brioche" from the 17th or 18th century and some say spoken by Marie-Antoinette, queen of France during the French Revolution, upon learning that her starving peasant subjects had no bread to eat. Because sweet bread (brioche) was more expensive than ordinary bread, this anecdote is cited as an example of her obliviousness to the conditions and daily lives of ordinary people.


buglegirl said:
Considering all the moderation staff are NON COMPENSATED VOLUNTEERS and its a VERY NICE weekend day I certainly understand Heather's point

Frannie
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When you accept to do a job as a volunteer and without monetary compensation, you basically know what you're getting into when accepting. No-one forced you. You chose. So please, let's not pull the "no compensation" card.

Also, calling posters "whiners" is not cool, I don't care how beautiful it is outside. If you'd rather be outside than reading whiners, just log-off and go outside. No need for a comment like that. JMO.

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the_nines said:
This post reminds me of a "Let them eat cake" attitude.

"Qu'ils mangent de la brioche" from the 17th or 18th century and some say spoken by Marie-Antoinette, queen of France during the French Revolution, upon learning that her starving peasant subjects had no bread to eat. Because sweet bread (brioche) was more expensive than ordinary bread, this anecdote is cited as an example of her obliviousness to the conditions and daily lives of ordinary people.




When you accept to do a job as a volunteer and without monetary compensation, you basically know what you're getting into when accepting. No-one forced you. You chose. So please, let's not pull the "no compensation" card.

Also, calling posters "whiners" is not cool, I don't care how beautiful it is outside. If you'd rather be outside than reading whiners, just log-off and go outside. No need for a comment like that. JMO.

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Shominy said:
That's very thin and specious at best. I volunteer at a few things and have never considered my role in the way that was described. No one is conscripted into volunteering- it is a choice, and not one which allows (me) outs when "the weather is good" or it's inconvenient to be a volunteer.

Back to regular programming...
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Honestly both of you.

Its the endless complaining and bickering that is the problem. Not the work load.

The moderation staff deserves better than most of us treat them like. Not free kicks in the ass just because they care enough to be here for us.

And I can guarantee the moderation staff by and large have NOTHING to do with this advertising. They are mostly as powerless as the rest of us!!!

Frannie
 
buglegirl said:
Honestly both of you.

Its the endless complaining and bickering that is the problem. Not the work load.

The moderation staff deserves better than most of us treat them like. Not free kicks in the ass just because they care enough to be here for us.

And I can guarantee the moderation staff by and large have NOTHING to do with this advertising. They are mostly as powerless as the rest of us!!!

Frannie
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What the hell you talking about...;)

I would imagine 98% of their work load is dealing with this crap:

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GChief said:
What the hell you talking about...;)

I would imagine 98% of their work load is dealing with this crap:

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Hah thanks for that :)

I am going to get out of this mess.

Anyone who knows me knows my feelings about the staff here and this site.

And anyone else threatening to cancel memberships ??

Remember the Internet is NOT getting better as far as advertising.

Heck you can hardly go to any decent news site and read articles. Most of them are requiring subscriptions to even view content of any kind.

And OH yah the advertising STAYS at these sites!!

That would likely be the fate of AK if it went subscription totally.

All of you non subscribers would be locked out and the site would turn into a sterile wasteland.

Be careful what you wish for.

I am out

Frannie
 
buglegirl said:
Honestly both of you.

Its the endless complaining and bickering that is the problem. Not the work load.

The moderation staff deserves better than most of us treat them like. Not free kicks in the ass just because they care enough to be here for us.

And I can guarantee the moderation staff by and large have NOTHING to do with this advertising. They are mostly as powerless as the rest of us!!!

Frannie
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Complaints come at the end of the dead-end road of not being heard... or acknowledged.

If the ads are out of their control to control (which I do not 100% believe), a simple acknowledgment helps. And Luvvin did that, but it was very late in the game.
 
For my worst-case scenario (workplace PC, Explorer on Windows, no ability to install any add-ons), something got a lot better at some point between Friday and today. I no longer have ads interfering with AK content even when I am logged in. That had been happening 100% of the time up through Friday, so I can't imagine that it's a coincidence that things are different today. Someone must have fixed something, and for that I am very grateful. Thanks!
 
chazix said:
For my worst-case scenario (workplace PC, Explorer on Windows, no ability to install any add-ons), something got a lot better at some point between Friday and today. I no longer have ads interfering with AK content even when I am logged in. That had been happening 100% of the time up through Friday, so I can't imagine that it's a coincidence that things are different today. Someone must have fixed something, and for that I am very grateful. Thanks!
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Yep, I have seen marginal improvement as well. To that, thank you.
 
I hate to ask this again, but I'm going to.

Clearly this is a difficult time for everyone in the world and AK is no exception. I understand that additional revenue may be needed to keep the "lights on" here. What I don't understand is the complete lack of any sort of increased level of membership that would include an AD FREE experience. I'll GLADLY commit to a much higher annual donation to AK (than the standard $25/year) if I can dispense with these obnoxious ads. And I don't think I am the only one here that feels that way.

What I am not going to do is just write larger checks to AK and still have to look at that crap. It's up the owners (this is a business after all, and not a non-profit, right?) to figure out how to make this work.

If this isn't the place to ask/discuss this, where is the correct place/thread?

jblnut
 
Mmmmmmm ... cake! ;-}

I've noticed a few of the newer ads are getting smarter when it comes to ad blockers. Just a bit more of a challenge to pull out the wildcards and get a bit more creative when setting the rules here. Luctor et emergo vicit! I came, I saw, I blocked it!
 
yes , you can copy and paste, or do a screen shot , but they are Extremely slow in comparison....... - but that isn't the point , the point isn't that there isn't any way to do it ....... but that the ads have become so obnoxious and obtrusive that they are sucking the enjoyment out the net and audio pages specifically. Seems like everywhere you go you have to shut down ad after ad just to see what you came to look at on the page, then even after you do shut the ads down, many times ads still block the bottom and tops of the pages leaving only a small area you can view at a time , or on some forums...... it appears that the bandwidth taken up by the big ads is slowing down or stopping things you used to do - like saving a thread that you think you might need information off of.
 
hi , you say ads are just normal , I should get over it ... well this time when I logged on here, there was an ad blocking the whole left side of the page, i couldn't see anyone's avatar or who was posting..... not a problem?
 
So Now I am home and I see that a post from well over a week ago was neither moved, nor answered.It is just gone.

I do not need to have a source of recreation be difficult to enjoy. I have enough headaches without something I pay to be a part of subjecting me to tracking, gathering information, or causing me to feel I need to explain this.

This is what I see right now, As I type.

This is unacceptable. Protect the privacy of your subscribers, or I know of one who will be leaving.
audiokarma.org
16 Trackers Blocked
Tracker networks aggregate your web history into a data profile about you. Major tracker networks are more harmful because they can track and target you across more of the internet.
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    2. cdn.viglink.com
      Advertising
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    1. apex.go.sonobi.com
      Advertising
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    1. as-sec.casalemedia.com
      Analytics
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    1. adserver-us.adtech.advertising.com
      Advertising
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  10. Amazon.com
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hallcon83 said:
hi , you say ads are just normal , I should get over it ... well this time when I logged on here, there was an ad blocking the whole left side of the page, i couldn't see anyone's avatar or who was posting..... not a problem?
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That’s an actual problem and not the norm as explained in this thread.

That probably should be posted here as you are not just complaining about having ads in general.

:beerchug:
 
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