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did you do as it asked ? i dont see it and dont have script blocking so maybe you do have ? the other one i guess its an ad blocker complaint . the internet unfortunately is run from advertising so by blocking things upsets things sometimes .

Why should I have to reconfigure my computers, for this one website? Especially when I am already paying as a subscriber here?

Regards,
Gordon.
 
Why should I have to reconfigure my computers, for this one website? Especially when I am already paying as a subscriber here?

Regards,
Gordon.
i cannot answer that as its not my department . apart from that the site most likely relies on some scripts so it can work properly . i only know what my go to i.t man tells me . i got rid of my script blocker ages ago and am still here and not had a problem . i cant even remember why i got one in the first place now .
 
I just found out something.

If I click AdBlockPlus, and select "Block Element"- and select the bottom banner- I can make it go away, until I refresh the page. Apparently, the bottom banner is using a randomly selected script name- if you block one, it just rolls over to a different script name, and the banner pops back up. Pretty shitty malware-like behavior, IMHO.

So, I just reported it to AdBlockPlus. Let's see if they can do something about it...

Regards,
Gordon.
 
if you really want to get serious about blocking spies try using something like etherape and then add rules to your firewall .. this can become rather tedious though with the multiple ip.s . . you can eventually find the range of ip.s and block in bulk if you can be bothered .. i found it is like playing an old computer game . it got me nowhere in the end except for speeding up my general internet usage and using less ..but now i am on unlimited it doesn't matter so much as i don't have to pay for them spying
 
did you do as it asked ? i dont see it and dont have script blocking so maybe you do have ? the other one i guess its an ad blocker complaint . the internet unfortunately is run from advertising so by blocking things upsets things sometimes .

I think that most of us understand how the economics of the internet are based on spying on us and selling that information.

I can't say how long GordonW has been a subscriber but I have been one for the last 7 years (but he has been here 10 years longer than I). In addition I buy subscriptions for friends as gifts and have made separate monetary contributions to AK. I do not feel particularly entitled to have my ass kissed for that and am in general happy to be supporting the site that we all love. However I do feel that subscribers who are monetarily supporting AK could at least be spared dealing with being forced to accept ads and background spying.

I think that all of us should be concerned as to what role google should have here. They are not our friend. And this appears to be directly related to google.

Cheers,
James
 
Page 2 of the form are "Vendor Preferences":
View attachment 2201598

When I logged on yesterday (19 April 21) before work I was not getting any of this. When I logged on after work it first appeared, so, sometime between 05:30 and 15:45 UTC+1.

None of the consent form settings are saved (probably because I don't allow cookies to be saved on my PC) and I have to go through declining the entries at each login. Interesting how many entries give me no option not to accept.

Cheers,
James

Uh Oh.... OK I really do apologize, we're coming into this late.

So here's the bottom line - Your'e in Europe. The European Union has passed extremely stiff laws which punish companies for not gathering consent for advertising. This is Audiokarma getting compliant with European laws, and anyone on the site from other countries does not see this consent banner. You are absolutely correct that this comes from Google, and Google powers most of the advertising on the internet.

We must adhere to the European laws, and we will work with the admins of the site to figure out a better strategy here. I totally understand your frustration, and I apologize that the experience isn't working out well right now. We'll get on it.

OK, this thing HAS to go away.

It's blocking the selection of pictures, when trying to view a post.

View attachment 2206441

Personally, I'm running out of patience about this...

Regards,
Gordon.

Ok yikes, this isn't good. Is it completely persisitant every single time you try to view an image?

I think that most of us understand how the economics of the internet are based on spying on us and selling that information.

I can't say how long GordonW has been a subscriber but I have been one for the last 7 years (but he has been here 10 years longer than I). In addition I buy subscriptions for friends as gifts and have made separate monetary contributions to AK. I do not feel particularly entitled to have my ass kissed for that and am in general happy to be supporting the site that we all love. However I do feel that subscribers who are monetarily supporting AK could at least be spared dealing with being forced to accept ads and background spying.

I think that all of us should be concerned as to what role google should have here. They are not our friend. And this appears to be directly related to google.

Cheers,
James

That is a fair request for Subscribers who are supporting the site monetarily. We will work to come up with a better experience for you. We've disabled a few things for now, and we will be diving into this rapidly on Monday.
 
@Advally

This is recent, two banners with no content but the word "Advertisement"

ad bannner.jpg
 
Uh Oh.... OK I really do apologize, we're coming into this late.

So here's the bottom line - Your'e in Europe. The European Union has passed extremely stiff laws which punish companies for not gathering consent for advertising. This is Audiokarma getting compliant with European laws, and anyone on the site from other countries does not see this consent banner. You are absolutely correct that this comes from Google, and Google powers most of the advertising on the internet.

We must adhere to the European laws, and we will work with the admins of the site to figure out a better strategy here. I totally understand your frustration, and I apologize that the experience isn't working out well right now. We'll get on it.



Ok yikes, this isn't good. Is it completely persisitant every single time you try to view an image?



That is a fair request for Subscribers who are supporting the site monetarily. We will work to come up with a better experience for you. We've disabled a few things for now, and we will be diving into this rapidly on Monday.

OK, it's good to hear some feedback on this.

The nag banner at the bottom is consistent in it's position and size on 2 different devices for me. It does consistently block all but a sliver of photo selections. I can see that there is a small amount of something to select but not what it is.

Afaik the new European internet consent laws are not just about consent per se but specifically about mandating opt-in as the default for consent forms and not allowing users to be forced to opt-out as a default. I have a problem with the items on the form that are defaulted to opt-out and more so with the 5 or so items on the 2nd page that do not allow for any choice. I see that as illegal.

Cheers,
James
 
https://gdpr-info.eu/

Right to object
  1. 1The data subject shall have the right to object, on grounds relating to his or her particular situation, at any time to processing of personal data concerning him or her which is based on point (e) or (f) of Article 6(1), including profiling based on those provisions. 2The controller shall no longer process the personal data unless the controller demonstrates compelling legitimate grounds for the processing which override the interests, rights and freedoms of the data subject or for the establishment, exercise or defence of legal claims.
  2. Where personal data are processed for direct marketing purposes, the data subject shall have the right to object at any time to processing of personal data concerning him or her for such marketing, which includes profiling to the extent that it is related to such direct marketing.
  3. Where the data subject objects to processing for direct marketing purposes, the personal data shall no longer be processed for such purposes.
  4. At the latest at the time of the first communication with the data subject, the right referred to in paragraphs 1 and 2 shall be explicitly brought to the attention of the data subject and shall be presented clearly and separately from any other information.
  5. In the context of the use of information society services, and notwithstanding Directive 2002/58/EC, the data subject may exercise his or her right to object by automated means using technical specifications.
  6. Where personal data are processed for scientific or historical research purposes or statistical purposes pursuant to Article 89(1), the data subject, on grounds relating to his or her particular situation, shall have the right to object to processing of personal data concerning him or her, unless the processing is necessary for the performance of a task carried out for reasons of public interest.
 
https://gdpr-info.eu/

Right to object
  1. 1The data subject shall have the right to object, on grounds relating to his or her particular situation, at any time to processing of personal data concerning him or her which is based on point (e) or (f) of Article 6(1), including profiling based on those provisions. 2The controller shall no longer process the personal data unless the controller demonstrates compelling legitimate grounds for the processing which override the interests, rights and freedoms of the data subject or for the establishment, exercise or defence of legal claims.
  2. Where personal data are processed for direct marketing purposes, the data subject shall have the right to object at any time to processing of personal data concerning him or her for such marketing, which includes profiling to the extent that it is related to such direct marketing.
  3. Where the data subject objects to processing for direct marketing purposes, the personal data shall no longer be processed for such purposes.
  4. At the latest at the time of the first communication with the data subject, the right referred to in paragraphs 1 and 2 shall be explicitly brought to the attention of the data subject and shall be presented clearly and separately from any other information.
  5. In the context of the use of information society services, and notwithstanding Directive 2002/58/EC, the data subject may exercise his or her right to object by automated means using technical specifications.
  6. Where personal data are processed for scientific or historical research purposes or statistical purposes pursuant to Article 89(1), the data subject, on grounds relating to his or her particular situation, shall have the right to object to processing of personal data concerning him or her, unless the processing is necessary for the performance of a task carried out for reasons of public interest.

:beerchug:, :thumbsup:
 
I'm running Adblock and NoScript on Firefox...the only way to get rid of the banner Gordon posted is to allow Google.com in NoScript. It doesnt get rid of the two blank ones at the top that take up half the page though.
 
@Advally

This is recent, two banners with no content but the word "Advertisement"

View attachment 2212480

I get the same thing as high voltage.

Ahhhh.... OK for both of you, I know what the problem is here. Putting something into the tech team to address.

OK, it's good to hear some feedback on this.

The nag banner at the bottom is consistent in it's position and size on 2 different devices for me. It does consistently block all but a sliver of photo selections. I can see that there is a small amount of something to select but not what it is.

Afaik the new European internet consent laws are not just about consent per se but specifically about mandating opt-in as the default for consent forms and not allowing users to be forced to opt-out as a default. I have a problem with the items on the form that are defaulted to opt-out and more so with the 5 or so items on the 2nd page that do not allow for any choice. I see that as illegal.

Cheers,
James

OK, so this problem is that the Nag banner is covering everything for you? Is that persistent or does it go away if you dismiss it?

Can you give me an example of a site where the experience is fine for you? I know that these banners across Europe are pretty frustrating, so seeing somewhere that you really like it would be helpful.

The other stuff I will have to bring to the AK Legal team's attention, so we can ensure compliance.
 
I appreciate advally's help here. With all the jerks in the world trying to screw things up, it's a wonder the 'net works at all.
 
Ahhhh.... OK for both of you, I know what the problem is here. Putting something into the tech team to address.



OK, so this problem is that the Nag banner is covering everything for you? Is that persistent or does it go away if you dismiss it?

Can you give me an example of a site where the experience is fine for you? I know that these banners across Europe are pretty frustrating, so seeing somewhere that you really like it would be helpful.

The other stuff I will have to bring to the AK Legal team's attention, so we can ensure compliance.

It's getting late here and I just now saw your post.

For me the banner is persistent and gives no options to dismiss it. It covers about the bottom 10% of the viewing area.

I will try to go through some detailed descriptions of what options and blockers that I am using tomorrow and cycle some of them on/off and describe the results.

Thanks for working to address these issues for us.

Cheers,
James
 
It's getting late here, and I just now saw your post.

For me, the banner is persistent and gives no options to dismiss it. It covers about the bottom 10% of the viewing area.

I will try to go through some detailed descriptions of what options and blockers that I am using tomorrow and cycle some of them on/off and describe the results.

Thanks for working to address these issues for us.

Cheers,
James

Hi James

I want to update you to let you know we are currently working on this and will give feedback as soon as we can.

Thanks
 
It's getting late here and I just now saw your post.

For me the banner is persistent and gives no options to dismiss it. It covers about the bottom 10% of the viewing area.

James, could you be more specific about where the banner is placed and what it looks like? Either a screenshot or a DM to our account would be helpful. There should always be an option to dismiss.
 
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