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Right Speakers for Restored SX-1250

The Dahlquist's are obscure speakers....but you recommend that the OP goes to the trouble to source them, upon your assumption that they sound good?

this is a weird statement. Dahlquist DQ-10 the predecessor to the DQ-20 spoken about is one of the 10 most influential speakers ever, along with the AR-3/3a. Iconic. Well known, usually found in the sound room not set up in systems outside the sound room where many heard the Advents and know them. They are well known in most audio circles. Best known, no but if you don't know about them you might be missing something great.
 
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Obscure = hard to find.

Of the two definitions of obscure, yes, the hard to find (hidden, concealed) definition is applicable but the 1250 is very common, just folks have em and want to keep em and not show em for sale. I consider all that Pioneer stuff ubiquitous.
 
... the 1250 is very common, just folks have em and want to keep em and not show em for sale. I consider all that Pioneer stuff ubiquitous.

Agreed they were common back in the day, and if you still have one from back in the day, but rather unobtanium (at affordable prices) today if you don't have one, but "need" one. Most of the old Pioneer stuff still sounds pretty amazing today despite its ubiquity.

Two pair would be a nice speaker system for the 1250 is it doesn't get upset driving that load. Stacked Advents are sweet. I'd get the Dahlquists, though.

I would guess you could wire the stacked Advents serially if there was a concern about impedance in parallel. The SX-1250 has more than a enough power for the 16ohm load.

I did this for the center channel in my basement theater system where I needed two center speakers to get proper dispersion in that room -- the speakers were 6 ohm, and I was concerned about the 3 ohm impedance in parallel, so I am running them in series (12 ohm) to be safe (volume reduction compensated by raising center channel level). I don't think there are any downsides to running at higher than typical impedance, but happy to be corrected if there are concerns.
 
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Of the two definitions of obscure, yes, the hard to find (hidden, concealed) definition is applicable but the 1250 is very common, just folks have em and want to keep em and not show em for sale. I consider all that Pioneer stuff ubiquitous.

That is a weird statement. The reference was to those Dahlquist D20 speakers. Save your patronizing commentary. I owned a mirrored set of DQ-10s for several years, and am quite familiar with their place in the history of speaker advancement.

Should we just post a list of speakers that we like?
 
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The right speakers are those the OP prefers, not what I prefer or what anyone else prefers. If he doesn't have a preference it then behooves a person who has (or desires) audio as a hobby to get out there and listen to things so he can decide what he likes. As the OP is in New York I assume he can hit some audio shops.
 
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Should we just post a list of speakers that we like?

The request is for speakers that pair well with the SX-1250. Speakers should be recommended that sound great (implicit in the request) and pair well with the SX-1250 (specifically asked in the question). The reference to fond memories of Advents 30 or 40 years ago does not, and should not, restrict what is recommended. He could always go with the Advents, but then he wouldn't have had to post the thread at all if he had already decided that. There are far better speakers than Advent that were price prohibitive in period and are not at all price prohibitive now. It would be a irresponsible not to mention those speakers now since the pricing dynamics of speakers from that era has totally changed. If you have experience with the DQ-10's and the Advents, would love to hear your thoughts about how they compare.

As far as pairing with the SX-1250, Advents will work, but the 1250 will be idling. Nothing wrong with the 1250 idling, but the advantage of the 1250 is that its power allows the luxury of selecting speakers based upon sound quality alone without any concern for efficiency (not many receivers have so much flexibility regarding ignoring efficiency).

The right speakers are those the OP prefers, not what I prefer or what anyone else prefers. If he doesn't have a preference it then behooves a person who has (or desires) audio as a hobby to get out there and listen to things so he can decide what he likes. As the OP is in New York I assume he can hit some audio shops.

I'm pretty sure the OP didn't post the thread to be recommended only Advents -- and I'm pretty sure he didn't post the thread to be told "go out and listen to the 10,000 speakers brands and models that have been released since the Advents came out 40+ years ago to find what sounds best". Everyone can suggest speakers they think will work best -- that doesn't replace the importance of the OP listening to several options to pick what is best in his environment -- but there is a lot of value in AKers narrowing the list a LOT with what they think would be best (and the OP can ignore them all if he wishes).

All of the above said, the OP should have clarified a target budget, music types, room, volume levels and other things to help us provide recommendations. The budget is really a total unknown -- if he's owned the 1250 forever, the investment was essentially free + recap cost -- however, if he bought the SX-1250 at today's pricing, he probably has $2k+ invested in it. It's impossible to infer budget from those two starkly different possibilities. 30 or 40 year old fond memories of Advents doesn't really provide any guideline at all. I have very fond memories of my Advents from 30 or 40 years ago, and I used them for more than a decade, but I couldn't begin to describe how they sound today in any accurate detail.
 
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I have HPM 1100’s (my favorite), HPM 1500’s and Large Advents hooked to my Sx-1250. I listen to rock, blues and pretty much everything else with the HPM 1100’s and 1500’s on channel A+B. I use the large Advents for Jazz and Classical on C. I am currently wanting to switch out the The Advents for Some JBL L100’s when I find a nice pair at a reasonable price. Good luck !
 
I have HPM 1100’s (my favorite), HPM 1500’s and Large Advents hooked to my Sx-1250. I listen to rock, blues and pretty much everything else with the HPM 1100’s and 1500’s on channel A+B.

Great feedback. Do you know if the SX-1250 "A+B" switch wires the speaker pairs in parallel, or is there some smarter circuitry involved? The reason I ask is because the 6.3 ohm 1110's and 1500's in parallel would be a 3ish Ohm load. My impression is that a lot of the receivers back in the day just did parallel wiring with A+B, but I don't know how prevalent that was or whether it would still be the case for an upper range model.
 
Great feedback. Do you know if the SX-1250 "A+B" switch wires the speaker pairs in parallel, or is there some smarter circuitry involved? The reason I ask is because the 6.3 ohm 1110's and 1500's in parallel would be a 3ish Ohm load. My impression is that a lot of the receivers back in the day just did parallel wiring with A+B, but I don't know how prevalent that was or whether it would still be the case for an upper range model.

I am embarrassed to admit that I am not sure if it puts them in parallel When A+B are both selected. Someone else can chime in with that.
What I can tell you that it can sure play loud enough to be heard in every room in my house and in the front and backyard. I love my Sx 1250. I hope you find some speakers quickly to enjoy yours.
 
https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/pioneer-sx-1250-speaker-recommendation.894708/

https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/speakers-for-pioneer-sx-1250.829363/

I would avoid 4 ohm speakers unless they are well behaved/more sensitive ones. The 1250 can run at 4 ohms but there are so many other speakers.

So, classic rock is your main thing?
I like all kinds of music. Jazz, classical, but as a child of the sixties, rock is my favorite. Still poking around on the internet. As I recall, the Bose 901's really sounde great cranked up, but I felt were light on the bass at lower levels. The Advents still kept a bassy feel at lower volume.
 
Great feedback. Do you know if the SX-1250 "A+B" switch wires the speaker pairs in parallel, or is there some smarter circuitry involved? The reason I ask is because the 6.3 ohm 1110's and 1500's in parallel would be a 3ish Ohm load. My impression is that a lot of the receivers back in the day just did parallel wiring with A+B, but I don't know how prevalent that was or whether it would still be the case for an upper range model.
Not sure. I hooked up some 70's era Yamaha speakers (these were free) on the A channel with a couple of Bose 301's on the B channel I picked up at a yard sale. So four speakers at the same time. Not a bad sound. The Yamaha's have bass, but no high end - I think the crossover is gone on both,
 
Apologies for ending the thread with just one post :), but with all that power, I would go with something that can use it and yield rewards, like the Dalquist DQ-20. Not very efficient but should sound amazing (sadly have not had a chance to try them myself):

http://www.hifi-classic.net/review/dahlquist-dq-20-243.html

The closest thing I ever had to these were the Bose 901's. I used to read High Fidelity magazine every month and know of the brand, but never heard them in person. Occasionally I'd go to high end stereo store and listen to these type of components, but they were (and probably still are) out of my budget range.

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I am embarrassed to admit that I am not sure if it puts them in parallel When A+B are both selected. Someone else can chime in with that.

It's not easy to know, but can be inferred from the speaker limits specified. From the back panel speaker terminal block it does look like the A+B does operate in parallel given the impedance minimums of 4 ohms for A or B or C and 8 ohms for A+B... You are probably fine if you've been running them for a long time, but technically 8 ohms is the minimum recommended for A+B:

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I like all kinds of music. Jazz, classical, but as a child of the sixties, rock is my favorite. Still poking around on the internet. As I recall, the Bose 901's really sounde great cranked up, but I felt were light on the bass at lower levels. The Advents still kept a bassy feel at lower volume.

Are you looking for new speakers, or vintage, or something in between (used)? What is your budget?

The 901's are unique speakers from just about anything else because they are an array of midrange drivers. They need proper equalization and setup to sound good, so how they sound is VERY setup dependent. I suspect you would be better off with traditional speakers, but you should check out everything including 901's if they are a standout in your memory. None of those vintage speakers are expensive today. You can always fix bass deficiencies by adding a powered sub.
 
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