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Room Echo

Klipschpyro

Klipschpyro

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I have some serious room echo in my listening area. Probably since I have wall to wall Hard Wood floors.

What room treatments are you guys using if and to help with your room acoustics?

I wa looking at econpanels today.......any thoughts or success stories?

Thanks,
KP
 
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Can you get a big throw rug on that floor? It's killing you...

Also look into some room treatment. Not sure what compromises
you have to make, but whatever you can get away with will help.

I use GIK Acoustics stuff and it works great, doesn't cost a ton.

I guarantee every 500 bucks you can spend on room treatments will
exceed 5000 bucks you spend anywhere else.

If you are going to the RMAF, the GIK guys are great, stop by their
room and say hello!
 
Some throw rugs for the floor would be a big help. Heavy natural fiber rugs would probably be best.

Treating side wall first reflection points made the biggest improvements in my room. I'm just using Auralex foam, which sounds great but does not look very good. ASC products look great but they are expensive.
 
Big padded furniture and rugs. Or those foam bed pads seem to work well for my room (I used one to block the light coming in the window so I could used my projector and inadvertantly found that it killed some echos I didn't know I had.)
 
KP......I am using acoustical panels and bass traps. In my main system room I have (2) 2' X 4' X 2" panels, (1) 2' x 2' x 2" panel, (2) 2' x 4' x 4" open back panels, (1) 2' x 2' x 4" open back panel, and (2) corner bass traps. The acoustic panels are from ATS Acoustics, and the bass traps are from Echo Busters. The 2" thick panels work to reduce slap echo. The 4" thick open back panels reduce slap echo and work in the lower frequency range to help with standing waves. The bass traps, Echo Buster Bass Busters, are placed in the corners to reduce standing wave problems in the lower bass.

Even though my room is carpeted, the acoustics of the room were lively, and first reflections were a problem. I also had a serious standing wave problem in one corner where a speaker is within 3' of a corner. There were several areas of the lower frequency range where standing waves created an added volume level to certain lower frequencies, and was objectionable. By adding the Echo Buster bass traps, plus a two 4" thick open back acoustic panels in the problem corners, the standing wave problem was eleminated. The 2" thick acoustic panels were placed on side and end walls to reduce slap echo, the sound that reverberates around the room when you clap your hands loudly, and hear it ring off the walls. By using the two different thickness panels, and the bass traps, I was able to adjust the room acoustics, and create a very good listening environment.

Since you also have hardwood floors, you may want to consider a large Oriental rug to help control first relections from the floor.

I am not associated with ATS or Echo Busters. Here are some useful links: http://www.atsacoustics.com/ and http://www.echobusters.com/index.html .

I hope this helps you.
 
Do some experimenting to pinpoint the source of your acoustic problems before you get out the checkbook.

The room my stereo is housed in has wall to wall hardwood floors, just like yours, and I've had alot of issues with tweeters sounding 'ringy' and overly harsh. I did some experimenting with heavy bath towels and blankets, and found that the actual culprits were 3 glass-front gun cabinets placed behind and to the side of my listening position, some 'damping' material, in the form of a blanket draped over the front of them and the TV made a drastic improvement in the tweeter sound. I later did some furniture re-aranging while listening, and I was able to thicken, and tighten up the bass just by moving a shelving unit to the opposite side of the room. Experiments covering the floor in damping materials however, did not yield big changes, which kind of shocked me, but having my speakers 2' off the floor likely helps in that regard.
 
x_25 said:
Big padded furniture and rugs. Or those foam bed pads seem to work well for my room (I used one to block the light coming in the window so I could used my projector and inadvertantly found that it killed some echos I didn't know I had.)
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If those foam pads worked, then add this -- find some sheets that match the decor. Cover the foam pads with the sheets. Lots of WAF here, her choice of color, pattern etc. If it's done with a little thought, the sheets could add some additional sound deadening on such things as curtains and valences over fake or real windows. And if it's your mancave, then who cares about the decor? Use the foam bed padding -- bare! :thmbsp:
 
My room is 20 FT by 15 FT. I have a 11 FT by 8 FT carpet on the floor. I think I am going to go with some panels from echobusters in a couple months.

In fact they have a good layout of what I will need for my 2CH system. I guess it should be pretty easy. But I wanted to get some other opinions.

Thanks!
 
tasha said:
If those foam pads worked, then add this -- find some sheets that match the decor. Cover the foam pads with the sheets. Lots of WAF here, her choice of color, pattern etc. If it's done with a little thought, the sheets could add some additional sound deadening on such things as curtains and valences over fake or real windows. And if it's your mancave, then who cares about the decor? Use the foam bed padding -- bare! :thmbsp:
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Its my bedroom and I still live with my parents so it didn't matter. I have since gotten rid o the foam pad but added a bunch of other crap in the room (all my stuff from around the rest of the house since my parents are rearrangement) and that has killed the echo but created a headache of problems. I need to clean and rearrange sometime.
 
Rug on the floor, and a mix of Echobusters and GIK Acoustics products, did wonders for my room.
 
Most all of the advice previously given I agree with. I would get a professional to sweep the room with a frequency spectrum analyzer.
 
At a house I had lived in about 25 years back, I used to have a problem with what I believe was referred to as "standing waves", a kind of bass echo. Once I threw a large rug down on the hardwood and pulled in a large overstuffed sofa (both "borrowed" from another room), it disappeared.

I hear those panels do wonders as well.
 
I decided to go with some panels by GIK Acoustics. OMG what a difference it makes. My GF noticed more soundstage and better imaging right off the bat. You can't beat that!!!! :banana::banana:
 
Excellent, room treatments are a great way to improve your system. In fact, I would say room treatments are the best bang for the buck improvement in my system.

I'm close to buying a new condo and I have been looking for "picture art" room treatment panels for my new place. Here is what I have found so far:

http://www.echobusters.com/acoustic_art.html
http://www.decorative-art-services.co.uk/Art_Acoustics/Acoustic_Art_Panels.html
http://www.acousticartpanels.com/
http://www.soundsorba.com/fotosorba.htm
http://www.asc-hifi.com/picture-panel.htm
 
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