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i shudder to think i'm old enough to be someone's grandfather...but there it is....anyway, blackknight, 70, 80, 90 miles a week was fairly common back then. mainly because running was the only mass participant game in town-- health clubs few and far between; road cycling obscure, arty and expensive; triathlon non-existent. so if you weren't into ball sports, that was it. the running magazines were all reporting the top guys doing about 110 to 130 miles a week.

i got started because i'd been playing tennis and found out that my heroes, stan smith and rod laver, were 'jogging' as much at 2 or 3 miles at a time to improve their tennis fitness. then, we all watched frank shorter in the 1976 olympic marathon duke it out in a heroic race with waldemar cierpinski and were informed that these two were sustaining a 5 minute per mile pace as they hammered back and forth at each other. my hair stood on end watching that. i WANTED to learn how to run 5 minute pace!!

i eventually learned that when you start in your mid 20s and are 6'3" and weight 170 pounds when you have 2% body fat, that's not likely. shorter was 5'10"/140 in '76. if you look at the successful marathoners nowadays, you will notice that they have super light frames. big engine/little frame is the game in marathon. i was much better at 1 mile to 10k. the kenyans who dominate these days can FLOAT at 5 minute pace. they get out to about 21, 22 miles, and then start dropping the hammer on each other with 4:40 per mile bursts. its unreal. jaw dropping.

yes, the kenyans are amazing. see that El Gherrouj (or how ever you spell it) run the mile in a low 3:43? absolutely incredibile. see unfortunately for me, I have a very big frame. big wrists/bones/etc. i'm 6'1" and 175. my goal is 165 which won't be too hard, i was there in the middle of XC season. i've gone 18 miles sofar this week, hoping to get 30 by sunday. my fastest mile ever is a (not so good) 5:33.

just curious--what's the most miles you've ever done in a week? probably around 55 for me.


btw, cool story john. amazing how some old guys can still keep up. i know one guy who's 88 years old and still walks 2 miles a day. hell, some 45 year old men would have a tough time with that.
 
My son is a senior in the A&M Corps of Cadets (graduated from USMC OCS last summer and will be a 2nd Lieutenant when he graduates), and he wants to do the Bataan Death March in the 'Male Military Heavy' class next year. They do the entire 26.2 miles in BDUs, boots with a 35lb pack in the desert heat.

http://www.bataanmarch.com

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As Ray mentioned, I've done a fair bit of running in my day but I have never been anything resembling fast. Which is probably why I gravitated towards the longer events. By longer I mean pretty damn long.

But I've recovered from that addiction, now I get out a couple of times a week and walk a couple times too.

I prefer the less traveled routes as well.
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I envy all of you that go jogging and especially those that participate in marathons. I can no longer run without severe pain. Six knee surgeries will do that to a person. I do waterski (barefoot to be exact) and am ready to give that up. At 43 years old and with a couple of bad wheels, the recovery time is more than I am willing to put up with anymore.
 
RayW and Specialidiot on the up half of the '99 Pike's Peak Marathon.

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Blackie: I got down to a 5:09 in high school but I left that speed back in the 80's. It wasn't fast enough to win back then and I'm 45 pounds up on that guy now.
 
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Only time I run is when I see good vintage gear sitting on a table at a yard sale. :D

I do lift weights now(at Doc's recommendation) after my gastric bypass surgery. I guess I need to start jogging or something too one day.
 
My son is a senior in the A&M Corps of Cadets (graduated from USMC OCS last summer and will be a 2nd Lieutenant when he graduates), and he wants to do the Bataan Death March in the 'Male Military Heavy' class next year. They do the entire 26.2 miles in BDUs, boots with a 35lb pack in the desert heat.

http://www.bataanmarch.com

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hats off to your son and all others who are competing.


got another 6 miles in today, up to 24 for the week.:thmbsp:

ray: 5:09 still isn't fast enough to win, but it's damn good. i know a kid (lives about 5 miles from me) does the mile in under 4:20. he's 17.
 
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