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Sansui 6060 vs. Sansui 4000?

Ackermann

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The Sansui 4000 I use every day. I love this reciever. It is also the only Sansui I’ve ever heard.

Because I’m bored I am offering to trade a Marantz 2238 through craigslist and have been offered a Sansui 6060.

The 6060 is a later model than the 4000 and both around 45 watts - different build. Curious if anyone has an opinion on 6060 vs the 4000? Is the sound a big difference? Better, worse?
 
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I’m definitely keeping the 4000 - just wanted to know how much a difference the 4000 is vs. the 6060 because the 6060 is not cap coupled vs. the cap coupled 4000.
 
my 7000 sounds powerful, punchy and clean (serviced - bias adjusted, cleaned) vs my 9090 which has more powerful bass and sounds really good with rock music, but with acoustic, jazz etc a little syrupy (it has not been serviced or recapped).
 
The Sansui 4000 I use every day. I love this reciever. It is also the only Sansui I’ve ever heard.

Because I’m bored I am offering to trade a Marantz 2238 through craigslist and have been offered a Sansui 6060.

The 6060 is a later model than the 4000 and both around 45 watts - different build. Curious if anyone has an opinion on 6060 vs the 4000? Is the sound a big difference? Better, worse?

4000 better built, better sounding. Less overdesigned and cost cut. The only thing the 6060 does better is it's AM tuner section in terms of audio. Keep your 4000. It's good enough to be one of my favorites ever, and I've owned many.
 
I can't say the 6060 represents enough of a step up to bother getting it in place of the Marantz. An 8080 or 9090 may be, but I doubt you would get offered an even trade for the 2238 to either of those Sansui models.

As already pointed out, the 4000 is special and is a tough act to follow if you've become enamored lf the cap coupled sound. More power and added features can certainly be had with later models, but the 6060 is a mid-range model for it's series and not a significant step forward in any notable way versus the 4000 outside of looks, if that matters at all to you.

I'm not that knowledgeable about Marantz, but I might almost keep the 2238 just for the variety if I were in your position. I don't want to sound like I'm disparaging the 6060, it's a decent receiver. It just isn't all that remarkable if you are looking for wow factor, and not sure it will impress you enough to justify the trade.
 
the 6060 is kind of cheap looking with vinyl and plastic knobs (same knobs as the higher in the series)
 
^ the 5050-9090 all had nicely styled machined aluminum knobs with plastic cores. Granted, not solid aluminum, but Sansui had already largely abandoned that practice on most models post-1972. Point taken on the wood bonnet however, it had low grade, unconvincing vinyl covering, as did all of this model series save for the 9090(DB).

Worth noting the follow up top model G9000(DB) and even the G-22000 and 33000 were all vinyl covered, as were all other receiver models in the G series and onward Really, by 1974/75 the cost cutting was already getting evident. Thankfully, they managed to stave off the worst offenses of corporate bean counting until about 1980-81.

Sansui wasn't alone in this certainly, Pioneer and Kenwood took a pretty quick fall from greatness, Marantz sold to Philips, who pretty shortly burned off the essence of the Marantz brand. Fisher went to Sanyo and met much the same fate. Most of the rest of the Japanese semi-majors languished in mediocrity from 1983 onward, with some folding their tent completely well before 1990. In the US, McIntosh barely survivied, and SAE blew out only to be reborn (briefly) by way of the DAK catalog, along with DBX, which did later manage to re-established itself.

By 1982, given massive and rapid changes in the market for home audio, it barely mattered how cheapened things started getting since the golden age of hifi as a major consumer product category was over. The market for high end audio that remained was much smaller, and remains so to this day. Everything else from that point onward was reduced to cheap plastic rack or integrated bookshelf systems full of gimmicks.

It was done in by a combination of poor economic conditions, the onslaught of home video, home computers and home gaming consoles diverting away the money people had previously spent on good hifi gear. Be thankful conditions ever existed that favored giving us what we did get from about 1965-1980. That was a solid decade and a half of remarkable gear that is still kicking and providing enjoyment to so many even now in 2021. That's precisely why so many of us are on here having these discussions.
 
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