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Sansui AU-D11 II trimmer replacement WITH PICS

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I have been replacing the trimmers on my Sansui AU-D11 mk2, and thought I would write it up as I went along. Despite what I have read, I did not have to separate the sides from the front sub panel in order to replace the trimmers. I did have to do this for a service modification though, this concerns the headphone circuit.

As well as tools, you'll need :

Sansui AU-D11 mk2 Service Manual
2 x 20R top adjustable trimmers, Bourns type 3299W, for F-4263 Equalizer board
2 x 100R top adjustable trimmers, Bourns type 3296Y, for F-4271 Control board
2 x 100R side adjustable trimmers, Bourns type 3296P, for F-4266/7 Driver board
2 x 470R side adjustable trimmers, Bourns type 3296P, for F-4266/7 Driver board
4 x 1K top adjustable trimmers, Bourns type 3296Y, for F-4296 Power Amp board
2 x 120R, 2 watt resistors for headphone service bulletin

Here is the amp without it's top cover, base and front panel. It's pretty straightforward to get to this stage, just remove the screws. As well as screws, The front panel is held in place by the speaker switch and disc selector switch shafts, you can use an 11mm deep socket to remove these, or pliers if you're careful.

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The only board where the trimmers are REALLY hard to get to is the equalizer board, which is itself mounted on the control board. To remove this, start by removing the plastic actuator rods that go from the front panel switches to the board. These I have circled in yellow on the picture.

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Remove the four screws holding the input connector blocks to the rear panel. Unclip the board from the plastic mounts, and remove the rotary selector switch actuators from the front panel. You should be able to carefully wiggle the board out, you will have to cut a few cable ties and unplug some of the wire connectors. I didn't label these, but you can do to avoid some head scratching later on.

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Here are just a couple of the trimmers that need to be replaced elsewhere. I just used a soldering iron and a plunger type solder sucker. Even after you've sucked all the solder off you can, you still might have to heat up a pad while rocking/pulling on the trimmer. Once it's out, if the remaining solder has closed the hole up, take a sharp pencil, heat the pad up, and use the pencil point to make a hole in the solder. You could also use a piece of 24 gauge wire through the other side, keeping it moving about so it doesn't stick. Just take your time and don't overheat the pads on the circuit board.

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Each trimmer I took out, I measured the resistance between the wiper and one end. I tried to set the replacement trimmers to more or less the same value. This can be difficult though, as you might remove a 200 ohm trimmer, measure across the whole track, and it might be 185 ohms. Then, you measure your replacement trimmer, and it might be something like 205 ohms. You could work out where the new trimmer needs to be set using percentages, but after trying that for a while, I just set one side of the new trimmer so it matched the same side of the old one.

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And that's pretty much it. Just go through replacing each trimmer one by one. The Bourns trimmers I used, invariably don't line up with the solder pads on the board the same as the old ones did, you just have to carefully bend the leads to match. When soldering and desoldering, remember, soldering irons like to burn fingers. And if you've just heated up an old trimmer to remove it, expect it to be hot when it comes out.

You can replace the trimmers on the tone control board without removing it from the front panel. You'll need to position yourself, the soldering iron, and the desoldering gun very carefully. It is possible to do however.

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While I had the opportunity, I also re-flowed the solder joints to the upright daughter boards. The picture shows just one such joint, but I did all of them. In order to avoid heat build-up, where there was a group of four, I did the left most joint on each one, then the next one in, and so on. I also added some bypass capacitors across the main power supply capacitors.

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Service Bulletin 221 concerns the headphone circuit. Since this is a balanced amp design, with neither the "hot" or "cold" speaker terminals connected to ground, the headphone output runs through a pair of tiny transformers. As the output of these amps is around 130 watts, they found that the transformers were burning out. A solution is either to replace the transformer, or put a 120 ohm resistor in series with the primary. In order to get to where the resistor needs to go, the front sub-panel has to come off.

While your amp is still in one piece (relatively), flip it over and remove these two screws from the chassis. Then, turn it the right way up, and remove these two screws from the power transformer. After removing the two screws at either end of the sub panel, use a flat bladed screwdriver through the holes in the sub-panel to squeeze the plastic clips just enough to release them. You should now be able to pull the two side pieces off the front sub-panel. Your amp is now as floppy as a chocolate coffee pot. RESIST THE TEMPTATION TO LIFT ANY CORNER! The main circuit board and power transformer, among other things, are no longer supported.

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You can then remove this daughter board...

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...and these plastic clips...

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...and once you have removed all the nuts holding the bass, treble, balance and volume controls, headphone jack and power switch, plus the source and disc indicator lights, you can then remove the metal sub panel. Now is the time to replace any blown indicator lights, the selector lights are 8 volt, 0.1 amp bulbs, available from www.dgwojo.com.

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The Service Bulletin advises replacing these two wire links with 120 ohm, 2 watt resistors. There are holes already in the board for the resistors, which are longer than the wire links.

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After all the trimmers have been replaced, the headphone resistors installed, blown lights replaced, bypass caps fitted and anything else you need to do, the amp can be put back together. Try to resist moving it too much until the front sub-panel has been installed.

Then, the task of setting all the trimmers begins. You may be wondering what all these extra wires are in the picture below.

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Well, they go to this...

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It's an old breadboard that's been sitting in a box for 10 or even 20 years. I had never used it, but didn't want to throw it away as I knew it would come in useful someday. What I did was solder wires to all the test points on the amp and run them out to this breadboard. I didn't fancy poking around inside with probes and/or clips, this brings all the test points out to one place. I even brought out the four speaker outputs, since with the protection circuit active, you can't take a measurement from the speaker terminals. All that was missing is the ground, but since this is just a big binding post on the back of the amp, I just used that. I labeled each test point to match the step shown in the service manual.

This amp has 12 trimmers to adjust, some affecting others. What I advise doing is making the adjustments, leaving the amp for 20-30 minutes, then going back. Don't beat yourself up about trying to get each value exactly on zero, as long as they are within spec, that's good. While doing this with a digital multimeter, you'll wish you had a big old analogue meter like your granddaddy used to have. Digital meters can be a pain sometimes with their sampling rates. If all goes well, you should hear your protection relay click off while you make the adjustments.

Here is a picture of the breadboard in action...

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Saving the best picture 'til last, here is the amp with a solid power light, the protection circuit is OFF!

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BIG THANKS to Jeff (riverrat) for the Service Manual, John (Hyperion) for the list of Bourns trimmer part numbers, and Dave (www.dgwojo.com) for the indicator lamps.

Lee.
 
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Nice work!!, not the easiest amplifier to work on but it pays big dividends when they are running right.....

Thanks for the awesome pictorial......Im about to re-cap one of these.....
 
Nicely documented project...

Am I the only one surprised to see what appears to be a significant number of carbon comp resistors on those boards?

And are those the well-regarded Noble copper foil and polystyrene caps?

Herb
 
Agree - excellent pictures and a great write-up - also especially good that you show how to release those side plate snap clips - this will help a LOT of people.

Well done :thmbsp:
 
Outstanding write up. If I had the skills I would replace the pots in mine.
Is it possible to see the resistors in the headphone circuit from the top? Or do you have to remove the metal faceplate to see if this upgrade has been done?
 
Outstanding write up. If I had the skills I would replace the pots in mine.
Is it possible to see the resistors in the headphone circuit from the top? Or do you have to remove the metal faceplate to see if this upgrade has been done?

No you can't see it from the top, and also not possible to see unless you separate the inner front panel from the PCB. Which also means you have to remove the outer (black) front panel.
 
This is excellent information! The D11 II seems to be quite a sophisticated amplifier. I think all the work that is outlined here is a necessity to have this model perform reliably at it full potential. Just trying to do the basic bias adjustments and whatnot as mentioned in the Sansui svce manual with the original, poor quality pots is virtually an exercise in futility, so I wont even mess with it. When the time comes to get my D11 II restored, I will certainly utilize all the great info leesonic was kind enough to share back in '11.
 
Fixed dead picture links in this six year old thread... enjoy...

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The pictures were uploaded to AudioKarma, so if you can't see them, it has nothing to do with photobucket.

The amp in this thread was sold a long time ago. I have the two pictured now, but not sure what to do with them.

Lee.
 
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