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Schiit Modi Multibit

There has been a lot of confusion about how Schitt uses their bits and what bits mean to different chips to achieve results. Delta sigma uses bits differently than multi-bit. apples and oranges kind of deal with out being any sort of technical which serves no purpose here (nor would do any good) This has to do with MATH!!!!!! nothing else. the dac is being asked to do different things per the math. Multi-bit uses less bits but does more, delta sig uses more bits but does less. Marketing has brainwashes everyone since the early 90's to sell a cheep crappy chip and tell you its gold your hearing. Just reading this thread exposes that crap being recycled over and over like there is any truth to it at all.
The reason why Schitt is doing Great and Growing is because they got the Math right and know how to apply it right. and many peoples ears are the final judge and that word of mouth say this is some really nice sounding ****! and if they don't cover dsd or some other format its because the RedBook covers 99.9% of all music out there. and making that standard sound great is the whole point. and if you don't like it buy some one else's Dac and have at it.
 
Finjima said:
The reason why Schitt is doing Great and Growing is because they got the Math right and know how to apply it right. and many peoples ears are the final judge and that word of mouth say this is some really nice sounding ****!
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The reason why Schiit is doing Great and Growing is because they got a great marketing strategy.

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This YouTube guy "Z" is a self-impressed buffoon. He spends more time rambling about whatever his ADD impaired eye focuses on rather than providing any serious or helpful critique of the equipment he's supposedly reviewing. His opinions are often over-stated and highly personal/eccentric vs. objective and fully informed. And that foolish puke-cam gimmick...unwatchable.
 
MikE said:
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. I've had exactly one [1] correspondence with Nick. He got back with me the next day.

I'd purchased the Modi 2 Uber just before the release of the Modi Mulitbit - two days past the 15 day review process. I contacted Nick and asked if it would be possible to exchange it since I had explicitly asked him in my earlier email about their NEW product line in the Fall [if what I would be better served to wait]. He encouraged me to order NOW.

I questioned him about our previous correspondence. My reply was returned by Laura who in a detailed email explained that due to confidentiality contracts all employees were not permitted to discuss new product releases. She said Schiit was approving returns for all Modi 2 Uber dacs purchased in the last 30 days. Great news, I packed up the Modi and placed my order for the Multibit the same day. That was Monday, took delivery of the Mutibit one week later and received my refund the following week.
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I have had several communications with Nick at Schiit; all were excellent. He's very prompt and precise in his correspondence. And honest. Schiit's customer service is first-class, and one of the reasons they have such strong customer loyalty.
 
Had a chance to audition the Modi Multibit head to head with a Geek Out V2+ (unbalanced). Overall, pretty neck and neck generally speaking. I think the Multibit was more consistent in "quality", but there were certainly times it would fall behind the Geek Out. Sometimes I had problems telling them apart because the sound signatures would switch back and forth on us, depending on the track. Overall, the vocals on the Multibit were more relaxed and natural sounding (these were Klipsch speakers though, so that may have had something to do with it), the musical instruments were sharper, more pinpoint accurate, with more detail. But again, there were times I swore I was listening to the Multibit but it was the Geek Out. On some tracks, the Geek Out would be more harsh and treble-filled, but then one track over on the album, the opposite would be true. Overall, the Geek Out was more mellow and laid back, wider soundstage. The Multibit was more powerful, in your face, and accurate.

I enjoyed both and would not mind to have both in my systems. No clear winner, but maybe the Multibit was better by a bit in a general sense.
 
Since the Geek Out is a USB based DAC, it has more limited applications. I've got the Red Dragonfly, which is similar.

Could you describe how you had each DAC connected to your system, and what the rest of your system consisted of? How did you A/B from one DAC to the other? Also, what are your biases and sound preferences?

Edit: I notice you haven't bothered to quantify your impressions with any response to my question. At this point we don't even know if your gear is able to reveal any differences between dacs.
 
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mariopoli said:
Two bad Modi multibits in a row.

1. Thursday I bought a Modi at the new Schitt store and by Saturday morning it was dead.
2. Saturday afternoon I exchanged it for another one. When I got home I plugged it in and it was dead.

Anyone else have had problems with their Schitt either dead on arrival or dying in the first few days?
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What a piece of Schitt.
 
Finjima said:
There has been a lot of confusion about how Schitt uses their bits and what bits mean to different chips to achieve results. Delta sigma uses bits differently than multi-bit. apples and oranges kind of deal with out being any sort of technical which serves no purpose here (nor would do any good) This has to do with MATH!!!!!! nothing else. the dac is being asked to do different things per the math. Multi-bit uses less bits but does more, delta sig uses more bits but does less. Marketing has brainwashes everyone since the early 90's to sell a cheep crappy chip and tell you its gold your hearing. Just reading this thread exposes that crap being recycled over and over like there is any truth to it at all.
The reason why Schitt is doing Great and Growing is because they got the Math right and know how to apply it right. and many peoples ears are the final judge and that word of mouth say this is some really nice sounding ****! and if they don't cover dsd or some other format its because the RedBook covers 99.9% of all music out there. and making that standard sound great is the whole point. and if you don't like it buy some one else's Dac and have at it.
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Its finally nice to see somebody point out the engineering that Schitt puts into their designs. Their forte is their ability to design the filter side and like you said its all a math exercise that they have pretty much mastered.
 
runnin' said:
And you keep on repeating yourself about your distaste. How many more times do you figure on repeating before you get it out of your system?
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I really don't know, perhaps I'm in need of a Schiit Kool Aid prescription, or do they sell it over the counter?
 
What you need is some perspective and objectivity, things that can't really be taught. But keep at it, you may grow out of your ignorance yet.
 
I do know of the excellent dddac that Is worth considering of one wants to go nos, and for a while I was. but that was a while ago. Now I'm sold on schitt.
 
runnin' said:
Since the Geek Out is a USB based DAC, it has more limited applications. I've got the Red Dragonfly, which is similar.

Could you describe how you had each DAC connected to your system, and what the rest of your system consisted of? How did you A/B from one DAC to the other? Also, what are your biases and sound preferences?

Edit: I notice you haven't bothered to quantify your impressions with any response to my question. At this point we don't even know if your gear is able to reveal any differences between dacs.
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I assume you're talking to me, and no, I didn't respond, because I've been doing other things, and I don't hang out on this forum all the time, and this forum is not exactly a hotspot of non-stop posting activity.

As far knowing if "our gear is able to reveal any differences" --- wtf do you think my impressions were? Me just sitting here making this all up? My buddy and and I were just sitting around dreaming of all the differences and I decided to come here and post them? Get real, man. If you don't believe me, stick with whatever DAC you have and be happy/call it good/save money.

Both DACs were hooked up to his Macbook, and both were plugged into his P-304 Onkyo Integra Pre-Amp, plugged into his Onkyo M-508 Grand Integra amp. We switched sources on the fly using his Mac and the Pre-Amp, back and forth on the same songs as they ran.

The speakers were Klipsch Chorus 2.

Sound preferences? Fairly neutral, not a *ton* of bass, but solid punchy bass, laid back sound, polite, refined sound signature with forward vocals, no harsh treble, layered soundstage, lots of mids, not super bright gear. Basically, I like Wharfedale, Monitor Audio, Marantz and Yamaha gear. I don't like Klipsch generally speaking. My buddy does. Basically whatever the Geek Out 2A sounds like, I like.

Does anyone want a pic of the setup to prove what I'm listening to and to verify it's "resolving enough"? http://imgur.com/a/bo2Li

EDIT: No, the Valhalla 2 was not hooked up at the time of the A/B listening test.

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runnin' said:
What you need is some perspective and objectivity, things that can't really be taught. But keep at it, you may grow out of your ignorance yet.
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Not counting on it. There is more than simple dislike and different preferences here, more of an obsession with hatred of all things Schiit! Their Sq isn't the issue, maybe it is the name that is sending them off the deep end.
 
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