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Sears, not the internet's fault

he also said stuff like 'because its wreckable'.

If you ever wanna see something so sad because it is so true, try and find the HBO pictures film 'Barbarians at the Gate'. Shortly after Lou Gerstner arrived at IBM as CEO a number of us had a luncheon with him and asked how true it was. He said that other than private dialog which the writers have to take license with, every single item happened as described.

'they' really do act like that.
 
In the early part of the 20th century Sears sold mail order homes. Which even today would be innovative. All materials were delivered to one's lot for DIY assembly ( instructions included ). I've seen a few still standing today in my town. They were bungalow style and quite charming.
there were many different styles. Our son in law's parents live in a Sears Craftsman (yes -- :)) home here in NH. There's is a two story (narrow but deep, "town house" style) with a partially finished attic. Beautiful woodwork inside. In fact, there are several Sears houses in their town.
Sears shipped them in by rail, 100% complete (paint and nails, too) and ready to build and finish.
They were in that business for quite a while. They (briefly) sold automobiles, too.

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My brother saved up from his paper route and bought an Allstate mop-ed from Sears. I think I had more fun with it than he did. Unlike most mo-peds it had a clutch and two gears.

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Got a good deal on Kenwood Dutch (been wanting one for a while) oven on Sears going out of business .. I mean holiday sale .. forgot .. they said they were just remodeling. ;)

 
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I haven't the evidence that the internet did kill Sears, but I have my suspicions that it didn't do it any good either.. And I can say that for a LOT of other B&M mega stores as well. The thing is, when the Amazons of the world can do what they do without all that real estate needed for stores in every city and town, with all those employees, with municipal property tax, heat and lights, shoplifting costs, maintenance, stocking shelves without the aid of computerized humanless conveyor belts it kinda does put Sears and the others behind the ole 8 ball IMO.

Then factor in this, as a company starts its slippery slope slide into bankruptcy, panic may start to set in, and boards of directors may feel new leadership is needed, and pay an exorbitant price (his mega million fee + golden parachute) for a new CEO who may in fact be a total BS'er and be better qualified to work in the fast food industry (burger flipper) and this new leadership probably will have ideas to make the company competitive (or is just as likely clueless). These new ideas probably have risk involved, if the situation is more dire, the risks might go up and up, buying such and such product line, while dumping other things (like Craftsman tool being mfg in the US), and many others..

All the while Amazon, with its investment tied to shipping and stocking efficiency in much the same way UPS moves its freight which no B&M store can stand a chance against that sort of onslaught of competitive efficiency without some sort of major presence (like Costco) that makes a person actually want to go to the mall..

I will miss Sears for many reasons, and I will continue to shop Amazon for much of what I used to get in my car to shop for.. However as a company I think Amazon doesn't do a very good job of it either in many ways, (packaging and wild price variations) but I will continue to shop with them until something else takes its place..
 
The thing is, when the Amazons of the world can do what they do without all that real estate needed for stores in every city and town, with all those employees, with municipal property tax, heat and lights, shoplifting costs, maintenance, stocking shelves without the aid of computerized humanless conveyor belts it kinda does put Sears and the others behind the ole 8 ball IMO.

All the while Amazon, with its investment tied to shipping and stocking efficiency in much the same way UPS moves its freight in such a way that no B&M store can handle that sort of onslaught of competitive efficiency without some sort of presence (like Costco) that makes a person actually want to go to the mall...
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^^^^ These two concise points right here. Many consumers suspect but probably have virtually no idea how many hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars of the comapny's revenue, presuming that much is available, is poured right back into operating expenses, salaries, inventory costs, and taxes. These factors are precisely why Amazon, like it or not, is and will most likely remain the king of retail for the foreseeable future. Until a sizeable majority of shoppers fall back in love with having a tangible item in hand prior to purchase, the convenience of not having to commute to a brick and mortar location, park, walk, browse, and wait in line will be perpetually forsaken in favor of simply having an item or items shipped to one's door - even in the face of package theft.

Until circa 2015 or so, I was one of those "hold outs." After getting sick of being followed around stores like a criminal suspect - even with my wife and kid(s) in tow, coming out of the store to witness dents and dings in our car from impatient individuals, sometimes ridiculous crowds, and simply losing the desire to alleviate then-boredom, anxiety, et al. with "retail therapy," I made the decision to make nearly all of my purchases via the net sans food and clothes. The irony of doing so is that I'm even more disciplined with my money and discerning of what I purchase. I empathize with the retail employees that may experience unemployment as a result of diminished foot traffic, but I don't miss shopping at all.

In regard to Sears, I agree with the title of the thread. It wasn't the internet that did them in. From my persepctive, other retailers simply encroached upon the appliance (Best Buy), tool (Harbor Freight Tools), and clothing (Wal-Mart) arenas the company dominated for decades and did a better job of enticing the customer to shop. Menard's, Lowe's, and Home Depot snatched away quite a bit of the appliance and DIY crowds as well. The funny thing about open-market capitalism is that the presence of too many consumer choices from a myriad of businesses doesn't permit an entity to "hang around" long enough and become established in the mind and habits of consumers to reach the status of a cultural institution. In other words, after around 126 years in business, it may be time for Sears to simply hang it up in regard to the retail business. The presence of the internet in addition to a number of large companies selling similar if not the same goods is simply aiding that probability.
 
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perfect timing department: last night on netflix I watched tim allens 'men are pigs' from 1990. listen to the sears part....

"crafts-MAN argh argh argh"
 
I haven't the evidence that the internet did kill Sears, but I have my suspicions that it didn't do it any good either.. And I can say that for a LOT of other B&M mega stores as well. <snip>

I guess it did give people an alternative place to shop but the B&M stores have been giving customers the finger for so long that it is no wonder the shoppers went elsewhere.

I went to Frys on a Saturday to pick up some resistors and got up to the line to find only 2 registers open and a long line waiting. I dropped the items there and left. Sure that wasn't a huge purchase but why would I go back there to buy more expensive things? A couple years ago Target announced that they were going to staff smarter at the holidays rather than just having more people all the time. The result, longer lines.

Amazon is often not the cheapest place to buy things but they are generally the easiest. In fact smaller items are often much more expensive there. A can of brake clean? $9 rather then $3 locally but then you don't have to stand in line while the guy before you tries to remember what kind of car he has that he needs an obscure part for and then have the cashier try to get you to sign up for a rewards program and sell you the flashlights that are piled up at the register and some hand soap and some...

I'm a pick it up and look at it kind of shopper that loves to take an item home today. But Bestbuy drove me away with the people walking up and interrupting me to try to sell me solar or satellite TV. Home Depot did the same thing; I didn't shop at the one near work for several years because I'd be in a hurry on my lunch looking at an item and someone would walk up and ask if I was finding everything okay. That sounds fine until I'd say "yes" and they'd launch into their spiel on Solar because they weren't an actual Home Depot employee. I said "No thank you" to one and she stood there looking like I'd insulted her child, repeating over and over more and more indignantly "No thank you? No thank you?"
I hope those stores made a lot of money by letting the aggressive salespeople setup inside because they lost a lot of sales from me.
 
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