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Selling A Motorcycle--Moral Dilemma

Can you block the throttle stop? Limit the wide open without them knowing. Maybe by the time they figure it out he will know how to ride and you sold him a slower bike. I did that with my kid and I worked. Good luck with whatever happens.
 
Just my two cents, people are going to do what they do and I've seen some of the stupidest on bikes.
You tell them what it's capable of and they can see it with their own eyes and a test ride (while you hold their wallet).
You can't stop them from hurting or even killing themselves or others, even an accomplished rider can get him or herself
into a bind at times (been there). It's just human nature. If they want to buy it, I say sell it to them. But, if your going to lie awake at nights over it
your going to either have to get over it or live with it. Remember, you can't control what people do, only they can.
 
Thanks for all of the input!

It appears that a solution may be on the horizon--one of my employee's brother has a buddy from his military days that is into "crotch rockets" and is shopping for a new(er) bike. He currently is riding a 2014 Suzuki GSXR 1000 Yoshimura special edition (rare bike--only 45 built), so he certainly has experience with this class of performance bike and is still alive. Seems very interested, and is coming by this weekend to check mine out. Hopefully, we can work something out--he is IMO clearly experienced enough to leave me feeling comfortable. :)
 
An experienced rider, somewhat local, did not stand a chance with a bull who had wandered into the road. Wasn't speeding, wasn't being stupid, just topped a hill and there was the bull.
 
used to be, certain cars would only be sold if they buyer completed a training course sponsored by the manufacturer. now, any moron with a healthy 401K can go grab a cts-v or hellcat....

europe uses a graduated cy license, on engine cc such that by the time you can legally own a litre class bike, you can enter and win any f1 racing event in the US.

here...they dont even require a license to buy, own, register, insure.

get the money. let god sort this one out.
 
^^^ Huh! I did not know they taught that in class. I wonder how long the session is. It seems like it comes more naturally to some.
 
I had similar concerns when selling bikes....even bikes not so seriously badass.
The major reason I quit riding is because the list of maimed and dead grew far too long for me to bear.
I simply didn't want to have any part of it anymore. Still bothers me.
Too many experienced riders gone just because someone in a car turned in front of them.
I myself have the occasional need for a cane.

I say do what you're comfortable with.
The fact that you asked the question at all speaks volumes.
And good for you for keeping others in mind.
That's the way it should be.
 
Harvestor said:
Don't be afraid to give a lecture and tell him to go to test & Tune at the local quarter mile track for $25 if there's a track within 100 miles....
Tell him he doesn't drive away from your garage without full leathers and boots and gloves.... And obviously a full face helmet..
Give him any tips from your 40 Years of riding ...
like don't ride in the center of your lane where all the oil from Vehicles drips and the dust collects & keep your tires in the tire tracks where vehicle tires ride in....
tell him never to top of hill while riding the yellow line and to always keep close to the white line when coming over a hill....
Tell him never to approach an intersection to stop without scanning for dust dirt debris and oil and to not put his foot down in a Dusty dirty intersection.. and to look in rear view mirror to make sure the vehicles behind him are going to stop!
Tell him to always expect oncoming traffic to not see him and to keep his head light on at all times & if it burns out replace it immediately.. tell him always indicate your intentions with traffic by using turn signals... Tell him When approaching a red light with vehicle stopped in front of him to never get closer than 10 feet to their rear bumper.... And to always leave yourself options to Escape quickly if somebody behind you is going to rear end you can you catch it in your rearview mirror.. tell him to keep his wits about him but it's all about survival and survival tactics... To look at it like it's all about survival to use common sense don't hot rod through residential zones and to save it for long stretches farmland without driveways... Give them every bit of advice that you think he would need and don't hesitate to preach to him...
Then sell it to him knowing you tried to impart wisdom if you really want to think about the morals then write everything down and give him a tablet with several pages of your wisdom written by you..
That's all you can do and tell him to have a blast enjoying the freedom of the open road..

I am a Suzuki Hayabusa GSXR 1000 Rider I've had many bikes all of them rice burners sport bikes since 1986.. tell him to never get on a bike even with one beer in his system or even one drink of alcohol...
The whole point of having a motorcycle and enjoying the hobby is to do so to the fullest in a sober manner...
Save the drinking for the proper time and place..
Don't be afraid to lecture
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And, as Bertil Roos would tell his students......"and don't forget to slow down for the curves>"
 
The deal is DONE! My "prospective buyer" arrived early Friday evening (riding his GSXR 1000 Yoshimura). Gave my bike a thorough inspection, asked all the "right" questions, went through all of the details and records of service/modifications (all of which I had neatly filed and ready), and then stood there swapping stories about the two bikes sitting there in front of us side-by-side in my shop. Good Times!!!

Then for the test drive--I live out in the middle of nowhere, so lots of back country roads with little or no traffic, but fairly easy access to an interstate not too far away. He was gone about 20 minutes when I got the phone call--fear immediately struck me. But for no reason--he just wanted to know if I'd mind if he kept it out for about another half hour or so :)

Getting dark, so I invited him to join me for some dinner on the grill and to stay the night--he was going to stay overnight with my employee's family anyways, but they have little kids, and I am single with 3 spare bedrooms. We both made a great evening of it--food, tunes, bikes ;)

Went out for breakfast in the morning at the local diner (even let him drive my HellCat), and hammered out the details. Then off to the title joint to do all of the paperwork, and the deal was done. Gotta love a guy that travels with $20K in cash "just in case" everything worked out. Hung out for a few more hours (waiting on one of his buddies to arrive with a truck to haul the "spare" bike home). His GSXR went in the truck, and he rode my bike (past tense) home.

I'm happy, he's happy, and he is safely at home with my bike :( --I made him promise to call--"yes, mother". He will clearly enjoy it and treat it with the respect required, and I will be able to sleep at night, knowing whose hands it is in--win/win!
 
I f you look at the big picture, if you had sold it to someone who in turn became a road pizza, you would have not been any more responsible than the company who built the bike for street use, the dealer who sold it, or the local DMV for allowing it to be licensed.

I understand and appreciate your concern, but there are just some things you can't control.:thumbsup:
 
usedto said:
I f you look at the big picture, if you had sold it to someone who in turn became a road pizza, you would have not been any more responsible than the company who built the bike for street use, the dealer who sold it, or the local DMV for allowing it to be licensed.

I understand and appreciate your concern, but there are just some things you can't control.:thumbsup:
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Yeah, I realize all of that, but I couldn't (in good conscience) willingly let it go to some kid with their temporary MC permit and zero experience on the road. Bike was bought and paid for at the time of purchase, and I didn't need to sell it for the money, so I guess that picking the buyer was my little bit of control.
 
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