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Shure V15 Type II

Sansui Louie

Sansui Louie

Curmudgeon
Had a brain fart, can't remember the tracking force range for this cartridge. I googled it and found a site selling replacement stylii for them at http://www.adelcom.net/ShureStylus1.htm

The following made me scratch my head:

VN-15E

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Replacement Stylus for: V-15 TYPE II.
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Can be used in Other Shure Cartridges: No.
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Stylus Geometry:
0.2 x 0.7 mil. Nude Elliptical Diamond.
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Tracking Force Range: 0.75 to 1.50 grams.
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Recommended Tracking Force: 2.0 grams.
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Manufacturer: Shure Brothers.
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Alternate Part Number: 763-DE. VN-15E
 
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Also, I'd like to open up a discussion as to what folks recommend for a replacement stylus for this cartridge. I'm seeing a lot of variety in price, substitution and supposed "just like OEM" replacements.
 
Me too, since I'm having issues with Audio Technica re: 440MLa with Hum and now it looks like the AT150Ti or MLX may be a hummer too - I'd like to know what the run down is on higher end Shures? I'll be on the lookout for a v15mrx. Knowing which styli are best will be plus :)
 
Sansui Louie said:
Also, I'd like to open up a discussion as to what folks recommend for a replacement stylus for this cartridge. I'm seeing a lot of variety in price, substitution and supposed "just like OEM" replacements.
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I have both the Jico eliptical and SAS, both work very well, the standard seems to have a bit more bass, the SAS hot rods it, maybe the bass is the same and there is a bit more of everything.

I've actually made some very careful recordings of both to compair.

You can't just swap as VTA is different.

The V-15's sometimes tendency to be layed back are gone with the SAS, tracking over 1.25g will flatten it's tiny cantilever, I'm running 1.1 grams. Also the SAS rides so low on the V-15II that the record lable witll drag a bit on the bottom of the cart at the end of play.
 
Holst said:
I have both the Jico eliptical and SAS, both work very well, the standard seems to have a bit more bass, the SAS hot rods it, maybe the bass is the same and there is a bit more of everything.

I've actually made some very careful recordings of both to compair.

You can't just swap as VTA is different.

The V-15's sometimes tendency to be layed back are gone with the SAS, tracking over 1.25g will flatten it's tiny cantilever, I'm running 1.1 grams. Also the SAS rides so low on the V-15II that the record lable witll drag a bit on the bottom of the cart at the end of play.
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I would be interested in getting a SAS stylus for a V15 II. I can find people selling them for type III, type IV, M91 and M95, but not type II.

Does anyone know a source for a SAS for type II or would one made for another type also work in the type II?

Thanks.
 
Holst, your comments about these two replacement styli for the II make it sound like neither is a good replacement, riding so low the label will scrape the bottom of the cartridge or that the cartridge will bottom out with 1.25 grams of tracking.
 
TSmith8605 said:
I would be interested in getting a SAS stylus for a V15 II. I can find people selling them for type III, type IV, M91 and M95, but not type II.

Does anyone know a source for a SAS for type II or would one made for another type also work in the type II?

Thanks.
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Jico sells them directly. This is the link for the Type2
 
Sansui Louie wrote:

The following made me scratch my head:


Tracking Force Range: 0.75 to 1.50 grams.
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Recommended Tracking Force: 2.0 grams.
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Well, Sansui, somebody on that site doesn't completely have their sh** together. :D Look at the picture for the N91ED. Totally wrong. :sigh:

Recommended force: 1.25 grams. :thmbsp:

Doug
 
Blue Shadow said:
Holst, your comments about these two replacement styli for the II make it sound like neither is a good replacement, riding so low the label will scrape the bottom of the cartridge or that the cartridge will bottom out with 1.25 grams of tracking.
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I'll try to be a bit clearer-er, the standard elliptical from Jico is the same as the V-15II improved.

The SAS has a extremely low mass cantilever, it is a hot rod, not an ATV. The cantilever is very thin and is designed to track at low weight. Jico states the SAS is made for 1.25 g max. No, it doesn't bottom out at 1.25, but beyond that, it starts to compress.

Yep, the end of the record there is a hiss types noise from the label under the knob. It rides low.

But the stylus cut is even more radical than a shibata and cantilever mass is so low it reacts and tracks extremely well.

The SAS is something more than a V-15II.

I am not claiming that this is the worlds greatest or anything. It's just my favorite.
 
No way would I pay 185.00 for that NOS stylus! I picked up a NOS Type ll improved(red lettered) from ebay several years ago for only $35 and used it for a couple of weeks until I stupidly snagged it and broke the tip off. I thought it was OK, but couldn't tell much difference from a older M95ED with a $9 PE Swiss generic stylus hat I eventually replaced it with. Neither are enjoyable as the Grace F-9e which is the only "old" MM cartridge I still find that holds up to critical listening. Grace G-707 arms are still bargains and the cartridge/styli come up often, and if patient can be obtained at very reasonable prices.
 
Hi,

Proper VTF for your Shure V-15 Type II is 3/4 to 1 1/2 Grams. A very fine choice of cartridge in low mass arms. The Jico-SAS stylus is a superb replacement at a good price. Equivalent in quality or better than a NOS Shure.
 
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