I experienced some of this bs from my wife's son from another marriage. He is 26 now and came up for a visit the other day. He was saying how ridiculous these huge old speakers of mine are when I could just go buy a small setup from Costco or Walmart that would be just as good. My wife suggested I play some music, not realizing the awkwardness of the moment. I turned it on and he walked away to the kitchen. He will never see any of it but junk, and I am actually good with that. I have no need to change any world view at all. I just want to be left alone with my 40 year old junk!
Some people just dont understand vintage gear...
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KingBubba
"Too Much Stuff"
Your Mom does not really care one way or the other. She is just trying to push your buttons. For her it is a good bit of fun. The best thing you could do for her is have a great argument over one of her comments. It will be fun for her and good practice for you for when you get old. 
Yeah, lets be "practical" and take it all to the landfill...
bshorey
Super Member
I had the opposite happen. My kids all appreciate great sound (of course!), but my older daughters boyfriend was out here a few months ago and asked me to impress him with something good. The recently refurbed Infinity RS 2.5's were already connected, so I fired them up and played a variety of music. He's an open minded young guy, and it opened his eyes a bit. Many of these young people are brought up on nothing but earbuds.
bs
I know! His younger brother who plays a pretty good electric guitar absolutely loves the big old JBL's! Whenever he comes over lots of drink and pretty loud rock always ensues!
rxonmymind
Super Member
Cool mom. Offers a counterpoint and keeps you grounded.
However, your not going to win with a bunch of broken "junk" laying around the house as you just validate her point of views. Start involving her in your hobbies by selling them and making a profit. Then what comes next? Take her to dinner with it. Get her something. Whatever profits I've ever made on any of my hobbies I just gave the profits to my wife. I could care less what she did with it but I asked her to never stop me from my pursuits either.
Why do you think she like the gear I have. Nothing I have will "lose" value if I kick the bucket thus she's not "anchored" with junk.
However, your not going to win with a bunch of broken "junk" laying around the house as you just validate her point of views. Start involving her in your hobbies by selling them and making a profit. Then what comes next? Take her to dinner with it. Get her something. Whatever profits I've ever made on any of my hobbies I just gave the profits to my wife. I could care less what she did with it but I asked her to never stop me from my pursuits either.
Why do you think she like the gear I have. Nothing I have will "lose" value if I kick the bucket thus she's not "anchored" with junk.
Well new gear is the best once you cross over a threshold, but I would like to hear some stats of how many homes have been burned to the ground by old gear. My guess is probably about as many as new equipment has (Samsung Notes aside).
MaxxVolume
Lunatic Member
I had a similar situation with 2 bright young (early 20s) guys I worked with, both were raised on MP3 players. One day at work, I was looking at a reel-to-reel deck on eBay. They noticed what I was looking at, and questioned what it was, and how it worked. I gave them a quick overview of how it worked, and both gave the same incredulous response...."WHAAAAT ??? How could that POSSIBLY give good sound ?"
So, I had them come over for an audition of my all-`70s Pioneer silver-face gear, and they were pretty much speechless after a proper listening session. You couldn`t knock the smiles off their face with a shovel....
Bassblaster
Super Member
i personally know more people but my mom is the one who always has something to say about it. my sisters dont care AT ALL. however my dad and his side all love the 70's and 80's gear. when ever i get a new piece my dad always wants to see it and hear it
Yes i have to im only 15. yes my profile is wrong.
What i own...
Fisher CA-35
Fisher RS-881
Fisher CR-W56 <Needs belts
Fisher STV-751 (Rebuilt Crossover, matching to the RS-881)
Realistic SCT-29
Pioneer SX-636
GE Turntable (unknown model)
Sansui A-1100 <Bad driver or output stage
Sansui SE-300
Sansui T-700
Sansui D-69C
Sherwood RV-5030R <Shorted rectifier diode
Sherwood RX-4109
TEAC CD-P1160
Some big ass magnavox 3 ways
hes 60 but thats not cool.So, how does she feel about your dad?
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DrumminDaddy
Hit it, Baby !!
Just havin' a little laugh. Didn't mean anything by it. Sorry if I offended.
If it helps, my wife didn't see much value in the stuff I've got either. That is until I showed her a bunch of eBay auctions with closing values. Now she sees the value in it, and consequently asks me to sell stuff whenever the subject comes up.
If it helps, my wife didn't see much value in the stuff I've got either. That is until I showed her a bunch of eBay auctions with closing values. Now she sees the value in it, and consequently asks me to sell stuff whenever the subject comes up.
KDAC
Addicted Member
Slightly off topic, but I have to reply to this. It's frightening how dissimilar individuals can end up having similar opinions and outlooks. Your statement is exactly why I haven't listened to terrestrial radio (FM or AM) since circa 1999. I grew up overdosing it as a teen in the 80s and by the time my mid-20s rolled around, I simply stopped liking it, listening to it, and developed an aversion to it for the simple fact that it felt like it took forever and a day for the DJ(s) to play the songs I actually liked and when they did, they eventually began to play them so much I'd grow to dislike the song and regret having purchased the album prompted by hearing said single(s). Then, to add insult to injury, they would inadvertently mess up my effort to make a compilation of favored singles on cassette by cutting the song short to transition into a PSA or commercial, the latter of which would be played 10 times a day. And please don't get me started on having to have discovered the name of an artist or title of a song years if not decades later because the DJ would virtually never state such information over the air. You would have to hang of the phone for an undetermined amount of time in hopes of receiving such info, assuming you actually got through.
I know there's some hardcore tuner heads out there, but radio (obviously) is no longer the primary source of discovery of new material. I think the only reason why it continues to have the footprint it does it that it inadvertently keeps commuters from killing themselves and each other during typically barbaric commutes to and from work.
Daddy Bone
Well-Known Member
New guy here. Just getting into vintage gear. Old guy, too. The gear you guys love was all there was when I was starting to buy my own stereo stuff. I usually bought junk. I was always on a budget. I had friends who were audiophile crazy. Magnaplanars, inline tracking turntables, tube amps you had to warm up for half an hour before you played a record. I thought they were crazy, but I could tell the difference between a $400 second hand turntable and a $900 turntable that was shipped from overseas. When I was young, I put on a record and listened to both sides. I had time to do it and I really listened. I paid attention to the stereo split and the surface noise. As I got older, I realized my music listening was not scrutinized to the same degree. I still put on a record and listened to both sides. But by the second track, I’m not even paying attention to the stereo split anymore.
I also bought less than great audiophile equipment and my last receiver was an early A/V surround. But I never filled out the surround speaker jacks and I still don’t understand plugging your video feed into a A/V amp. After a few years this device developed a horrible problem with intermittent, but chronic static. It sounded like frying bacon. It was a white noise storm. I had to slap the box to get it to stop. So I looked on the internet to see if I could fix it myself. I found a lot of people who said, “I won’t even try to service a newer amp. They were not made to be serviced.” I found AK and kept reading about how so many folks were servicing their own “vintage” equipment.
Well, I got bit by the bug. I’ve picked up two old Kenwood integrated amps, one Technics and one Pioneer turntable (circa 1970’s), and some Klipsch KG-2 speakers. Just from deoxing the pots and contacts, I’ve got the amps to where they perform great, with no unexpected noise. I cleaned up the Technics turntable and set it up with a nice Grado cartridge. I have been having a ball, listening to my old vinyl records, all the way through both sides. I “think” it sounds better than what I had, but I’m not sure yet. But I don’t have to slap the receiver to get the static to stop. As far as the stereo split goes, well I’ve been listening to a lot of old Bill Monroe and Leopold Stokowski records that are actually monaural. Still having fun!
I also bought less than great audiophile equipment and my last receiver was an early A/V surround. But I never filled out the surround speaker jacks and I still don’t understand plugging your video feed into a A/V amp. After a few years this device developed a horrible problem with intermittent, but chronic static. It sounded like frying bacon. It was a white noise storm. I had to slap the box to get it to stop. So I looked on the internet to see if I could fix it myself. I found a lot of people who said, “I won’t even try to service a newer amp. They were not made to be serviced.” I found AK and kept reading about how so many folks were servicing their own “vintage” equipment.
Well, I got bit by the bug. I’ve picked up two old Kenwood integrated amps, one Technics and one Pioneer turntable (circa 1970’s), and some Klipsch KG-2 speakers. Just from deoxing the pots and contacts, I’ve got the amps to where they perform great, with no unexpected noise. I cleaned up the Technics turntable and set it up with a nice Grado cartridge. I have been having a ball, listening to my old vinyl records, all the way through both sides. I “think” it sounds better than what I had, but I’m not sure yet. But I don’t have to slap the receiver to get the static to stop. As far as the stereo split goes, well I’ve been listening to a lot of old Bill Monroe and Leopold Stokowski records that are actually monaural. Still having fun!
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Djcoolray
Addicted Member
Use to be that people lived and let live, that....it's your thing do what you want to do concept has been replaced by an attitude of entitlement that gives people the idea that they can make comments about whatever they like whenever they want. We have all seen people act badly in public places without caring what others think. Conformity has replaced individualism so much that people have guilty feeling over how they choose to share what they enjoy. Then there is the group awareness that something just has to be wrong and they are going to tell you. Like it's wrong to spend so much money on this or that. Or, like it's wrong to drive around with the radio in the car played loudly when no one else is in the car. Like, why do so many people drive around on nice spring days with the windows of their cars rolled up not enjoying life ?? So, it's not just about equipment being taboo due to the cost of it. Nothing has to be a certain way, but growing up in public schools dictates that it should be. It's that American society has become narrow mind much like the early sixties before the civil rights movement of the late sixties. It seems that the old phrase of if your not part of the answer then you must be part of the problem has taken on new meaning. Then of course the everyday disparity of watching the world go down the drain kind of sets people off....
crazy-in-az
Uhhhh....
I live at home, and I am fortunate enough to have a mom who's as big a music fan as I am. I recently tried to sell a few things at a yard sale, including a pair of Realistic Nova 10's. After hooking them up and playing them outside she wanted me to keep them! They replaced a pair of Insignia ns-b2111's in the home theater in the living room (my mom said they "always looked so whimpy" compared to the Nova's).
She does occasionally get on my case when I buy more records, but she's usually right about that.
She does occasionally get on my case when I buy more records, but she's usually right about that.
I have really noticed this behavior with at least some young people I know. I wonder if it is behavior is being fueled by the Facebook/Instagram/talk radio phenomenon where people seem to be free to say anything and judge others who stray from their own narrow path through life. I wonder, was it always this way or has it taken on new meaning today? My wife's oldest son always has the same sort of wisecrack whenever he visits, not directed at me specifically, but just for everyone in the room how ridiculous my "50 year old" gear" is. He finds it repugnant that anyone would have or want big speakers today, all the while he listens through his laptop speakers..
Anyway, I see the judgement going through these boards as well, with people pointing fingers at those with better and worse equipment. Nobody today seems to see individuality as a good thing which never bodes well for the future.
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For those who understand, no explanation is necessary.
For those who do not, no explanation will suffice.
That's a religious argument, not a rational one.
I liked vintage gear...40 years ago when it was new.
I don't know whether it's religious or not but it's plenty rational under the circumstances - and can be applied to anything from Pioneers to Picassos.
In my book there is no excuse for a haughty, ignorant attitude - such as displayed by the OP's relative.
NickDanger55
Dancing Madly Backwards in PA
Sounds like it's time to get your own place.