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Sony PS-1700 Turntable Reject / Auto Return Not Functioning

audioreclaim

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Hi all -

Long time reader, first time poster.

A quick cry for help as it feels so close to being repaired but I just can't get my head around it!

Attached below is a video of what's happening with the auto return on this Sony semi automatic turntable.

I thought I had it working without issues for a while with the auto return functioning fine from the end of the groove, but it was when I pressed the return button that the problems started.

Any advice as to what might need fiddling with? Will I need to go internally inside the turntable?

I've also attached a photo of how I've been setting the gears before putting the platter back on. Is this correct?

Many thanks and apologies if I'm repeating old questions.
 

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So I think I've located the source of the problem. Mechanically everything else seems to be fine.

Any recommendations as to how to proceed from here?
 
Those parts on the large cam gear must be completely free to move with minimal friction. First check that. There may be gummed up grease on the pivot. If so, take it apart, clean with alcohol and then reassemble with no grease. Grease is not needed and just attracts dust. If the parts are free, make sure that they move with the arm. If so, adjust the long one so it contacts the pawl on the spindle.
 
Those parts on the large cam gear must be completely free to move with minimal friction. First check that. There may be gummed up grease on the pivot. If so, take it apart, clean with alcohol and then reassemble with no grease. Grease is not needed and just attracts dust. If the parts are free, make sure that they move with the arm. If so, adjust the long one so it contacts the pawl on the spindle.


Thanks ever so much.

I ended up bending the long metal latch down a little bit which resulted in it engaging properly with the smaller white cog.

Very happy to have finally isolated the problem!
 
Hi to everybody,

Just a quick update in case anyone lands here looking for a solution.

The auto‑return issue is very likely related to the height of the shaft. Over time, the original rubber piece at the bottom of the bearing disintegrates, causing the shaft to sit lower than it should. When this happens, the shaft gear also rotates too low, which allows the auto‑return lever to “jump” over it — that’s the clicking sound you hear.

Bending the latch
might work temporarily, but it doesn’t address the real issue, which is restoring the shaft to its correct height.

To solve this, in others forums I recommended placing a rubber piece under the shaft. However, after several years, the same issue reappeared — the rubber washer eventually deteriorates — so I’d like to share the definitive solution I’ve found.

The proper fix is to install a nylon washer (rubber should be avoided). Some precautions are necessary when determining the number and thickness of washers. It must be ensured that:

- The height of the shaft’s plastic gear is sufficient to prevent the auto‑return lever on the main cam from “jumping” over it.
- The platter is not raised too high, which would prevent the turntable from running at 45 rpm without the belt slipping off.

In my case, I used two nylon washers plus a thin PVC piece (without a hole) placed under the bearing. This last element isn’t mandatory, but I chose to include it to help the bearing turn more freely. Here is the configuration I installed (1 being the top, and 4 being the bottom inside the shaft cylinder):

1. Shaft with its bearing at the bottom
2. PVC piece (I used an old SIM card, for example)
3. Nylon washer
4. Nylon washer

The whole assembly was lubricated with Vaseline oil (known as “3‑en‑1” in France).

After installing the washers, you also need to adjust the tonearm and auto‑return mechanism heights exactly as described in the service manual ("tonearm height adjustment" section).

I hope it would help others.

Cheers!
 
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