Speakers 1/3 into room...very nice

[PioneerGuy75]

Ill have to try this.....:scratch2:

Does it help open baffles perform better too?

 

[JoeESP9]

Ill have to try this.....:scratch2:

Does it help open baffles perform better too?

Aren't open baffles pretty much dipolar? If so, based on my experience with panels I'd say yes. In any case the "rule of thirds" applies to most speakers.

 

[tomlinmgt]

Ill have to try this.....:scratch2:

Does it help open baffles perform better too?

It does, but if your room dimensions means getting the speakers at 1/3 into the room puts them very close to the seated listening position you might find some components of presentation change to something you don't care for.

 

[pete_mac]

Never understood the Sticking one's speakers Wayyy out into the room.
1) wife won't tolerate that level of intrusion/Idiocy
(I agree with her on that at least )
2) any speaker that Depends on that 'spacing' is of substandard design imo.
LOTS of Decent speakers work 'jes fine' when placed within close proximity to walls.

Hmmmm... there are many interesting and short-sighted statements in your post.

Sometimes 'just fine' doesn't cut it. I'd counter with the argument that any speaker designed to work well when positioned close to a rear wall is significantly compromised to begin with, and won't sound as good as a properly designed speaker standing away from room boundaries.

 

[pete_mac]

Well done tomlinmgt. I'm glad to hear that your experiments continue to pay off.

Your threads are consistently amongst my favourites on AK. Keep up the good work

 

[SPL db]

Sometimes 'just fine' doesn't cut it. I'd counter with the argument that any speaker designed to work well when positioned close to a rear wall is significantly compromised to begin with, and won't sound as good as a properly designed speaker standing away from room boundaries.

Couldn't have said it better myself, when we go to concerts, are the musicians on stage with their backs to the wall?

 

[mkane]

Next week I shall experiment. Should I leave the bass traps in the corners?

 

[tomlinmgt]

Well done tomlinmgt. I'm glad to hear that your experiments continue to pay off.

Your threads are consistently amongst my favourites on AK. Keep up the good work

Thanks for the kind words!

 

[tomlinmgt]

Next week I shall experiment. Should I leave the bass traps in the corners?

Absolutely. But if you have absorption panels on the side walls they may need to be relocated as the first reflection spot will change if the speakers are moved out a foot or more.

 

[mkane]

:thmbsp:

 

[twiiii]

When speakers are out in the middle of the room, your bass suffers and you get many multiple reflections off rear walls that really muddy up what little bass you have and the important frequencies where baritone voices are centered and lower frequencies of tenor and baritone reproducing instruments. Pipe organ just sounds weird. Now I know placing them against the rear wall can add a peak in the same range, but a room eq installed and voiced properly can take care of that issue quickly. And you will get a nice tight reflection free bass below 70 hz extending down to the lowest frequencies the speaker is capable of reproducing. I can't believe how many people are willing to throw a way the bottom 1 and 1/2 to 1 octaves in order to egt the sound they want. Back in the day of vinyl maybe that was a good thing, do to noisy turn tables and feed back issues. But today, why compromise. And if you would get away from those point source speakers you could really hear the quality of the recording and not so much the quality of the room.

 

[tomlinmgt]

When speakers are out in the middle of the room...

Well then it's a damn good thing we're talking about 1/3 into the room rather than 1/2 into the room. And you're right, the half way point in the room is a notoriously bad spot for modal behavior.