Please explain your certainty.Listening to identify sounds is not the same as listening for compression artifacts and distortion.
Please explain your certainty.Listening to identify sounds is not the same as listening for compression artifacts and distortion.
YesWould a trained harman listener or an audiophile golden ear excel at the job you talk about?
Nope... I have a very good grasp of this subjectI think you mix two related things and jump to false conclusions on this one.
They are different things.Please explain your certainty.
I am not quite convinced as you keep mixing oranges and apples.Nope... I have a very good grasp of this subject![]()
But only due to their hearing skills. They would need the same training you speak of?
I agree 100% about less listening fatigue with lossless. When I first started to stream on Amazon I could only listen for a few hours before I would get irritated and ears start to hurt a little.yet I find my collection of 5k records that I've digitized at 320kbps to be fatiguing compared to the lossless content on Apple Music and find their hi-res content to be better yet.
1) They are both sound, it really is that simple!They are different things.
I am not quite convinced as you keep mixing oranges and apples.
But only due to their hearing skills. They would need the same training you speak of?
Wondering when you will figure out you're not going to change anyone's mind on this.Obviously, audio systems are only there to look at for some people. Music is just background noise and is supposed to sound the same to everyone, no matter what.Wondering when you will figure out you're not going to change anyone's mind on this.

I am only responding still for the people who may happen to read this and want to try lossless.Wondering when you will figure out you're not going to change anyone's mind on this.
I get that. I started with Spotify, thought it sounded great for a while then I tried Tidal and made the switch. I really do not use any of the features on any services I have been on. I mostly search genres to find new stuff. I never play anything from a "made for you" list, I make my own.I am only responding still for the people who may happen to read this and want to try lossless.
Some Spotify users -like my son - have a lot of playlists and enjoy the UI. They wouldn't be willing to jump to a new service because of just lossless. However if Spotify would finally act on what it said they would likely want to give it a chance. It appears that Spotify just made their announcement to keep people from leaving to try lossless
I can't tell Spotify HQ lossy from lossless anyway. Maybe you can?
ABX High Fidelity Test list
A set of browser-based ABX tests comparing lossless and lossy music samplesabx.digitalfeed.net
I have Spotify lossless and Qobuz Connect. To my ears on my system Spotify sounds good but Qobuz is definitely a better sound quality.I'm surprised nobody has come back to update this thread, but Spotify released Lossless in September 2025. I just heard about it -- it's not available in all markets apparently, but I was able to enable lossless mode on my iPhone casting to my WiiM Ultra. Haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, but look forward to checking it out. It looks like there are some AK threads on Spotify's lossless release -- but since this was the "waiting for lossless" thread, thought I would post in case there are others like me that weren't aware.
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Lossless Listening Arrives on Spotify Premium With a Richer, More Detailed Listening Experience — Spotify
Lossless on Spotify Premium is here. Lossless audio has been one of the most anticipated features on Spotify and now, finally, it’s started rolling out to Premium listeners in select markets. Premium subscribers will receive a notification in Spotify once Lossless becomes available to them...newsroom.spotify.com
I am starting to agree. Some albums get a bit crunchy in the background. Listening to David Bowie blackstar atm and it sounds really good.Listening to Spotify 'Lossless' this morning......sounds like a more refined 320kbps to me but not a true lossless file.