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peterott

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Going to flood this forum now with two SR-929 threads and one related MC thread, so beware :)
Was checking almost all threads that contained "929" but these questions were neither answered nor asked...

Now, the SR-929 that found me yesterday had no accessories.

What I read from the instruction manual (and only read, nowhere pictured anywhere), at least the following was part of the original delivery box:
* low-capacitance type phono cables
* silicon oil for polishing the piano surface
* an additional sub-weight for cartridge/headshell combos weighting between 11g...21g.
* a Sansui headshell with a SV-27A cartridge
* 45 puck
* replacement capstan when switching between 50Hz and 60Hz

Now the questions are:
1) what else was included that I am missing in the list?
2) does anyone have pics? Especially of the phono cable?
3) see two pics below: is this the original Sansui headshell and are all the tonearm mechanics complete (I have the main weight, the lateral weight, the bias weight and the supersmall string that hooks the bias weight to the arm - hardly visible in the picture) ?

All tonearm mechanics complete?
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Original headshell ?
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1980 Sansui 'High Efficiency' TT interconnects (Pin Cords), 1.2 Meters long:

PS-1C 'High-Efficiency' series 'Low Capacitance' TT cables for MM carts, gold RCAs, with attached ground cable

PS-3C 'High-Efficiency' series 'Ultra-Low Capacitance' TT cables for MC carts, gold RCAs, with attached ground cable.

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These TT cables are SUPER BEYOND RARE and extremely hard to find. Took me 16.5 years to find a 'used' pair for sale in Japan.

And... I'm not sure which pair I have?
There are no markings on the cables designating the PS-1C or PS-3C. Guess you would have to do a 'capacitance test' on them to figure out which pair you have. One way or the other - they both are 'low capacitance' professional Sansui 'High-Efficiency' cables.

Much easier to just buy some 'new' quality TT interconnects for your SR-929.

Also... your headshell has the flat aluminum 'base' piece with 2 holes! That piece is usually always 'missing' when buying used. :thumbsup:

(I have the 838 & love it!)
 
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@bluesky: you are right. Upon closer look, the headshell of my pic vs. @Aud10file's pic is different.

I would really like to know how that "additional subweight" for cartridge/headshell combos between 11...21g is looking like and where to place/assemble it on the tonearm construction.
 
peterott said:
@bluesky: you are right. Upon closer look, the headshell of my pic vs. @Aud10file's pic is different.

I would really like to know how that "additional subweight" for cartridge/headshell combos between 11...21g is looking like and where to place/assemble it on the tonearm construction.
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Me too.

Just heard there was one about it a week or so ago. Don't know if they made one for the SR-838. IF they did I sure would like to get an original one. My new quest!
 
Nice to see the polishing oil. Does anyone know of a modern equivalent in order remove those tiny hairline scratches ?

Your 24" cable is indeed a bit short, which could be a concern with MM carts and their need of the right capacitance? But it might work just fine. And if you're planning to switch to MC and if it is long enough for your setup, no need to change in my opinion.

If have the same headshell on my SR-929.
 
bluesky said:
Me too.

Just heard there was one about it a week or so ago. Don't know if they made one for the SR-838. IF they did I sure would like to get an original one. My new quest!
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Ha, I think it is mentioned in one single pic in the service manual (page 14 of 15). However, the picture is lousy... I can't make out if the following "main weight" is really the big main weight at the end of the tonearm. And then still: if it is, then does it mean the sub weight is attached in front of the main weight and this combo is attached at the end of the tonearm?
Actually, I never checked if the sub weight can be stuffed into the main weight.
Still beyond my imagination looking at the picture :dunno:

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@peterott , the 929 sub-weight pictured above in the Service manual looks different from the one pictured in the 929 Operating manual below (manual page 14 /pdf page 16 - how to use the sub-weight).

http://akdatabase.org/AKview/albums/userpics/10004/Sansui SR-929 Owners.pdf

I'm not sure if they are the same but the one pictured in the 929 Operating manual looks exactly like the one on my 838. I provided exact measurements and pictures (one with it installed) of my 838 sub-weight in the thread below.

https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/sansui-sr-828-sub-weight-specs.967085/#post-14975527

Hope this helps
 
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Holyshmoley, you are right @Vintagear . My eyes have never seen the figure in the operating manual, just the text right besides of it "how to use the sub-weight".
Looks I need to check the back of my main weight if I can remove there something and would be able to stuff the missing "sub-weight" in there.

Brilliant pictures in the 838-subweight thread too.
 
peterott said:
Holyshmoley, you are right @Vintagear . My eyes have never seen the figure in the operating manual, just the text right besides of it "how to use the sub-weight".
Looks I need to check the back of my main weight if I can remove there something and would be able to stuff the missing "sub-weight" in there.

Brilliant pictures in the 838-subweight thread too.
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There will be nothing that needs to be removed on the tail of the tonearm. There is only a small opening were the additional sub-weight would be carefully inserted when needed. The sub-weight is pushed into the hole on the back end of the tonearm and held in place by the pressure of the rubber o-ring on the sub-weight.
 
Vintagear said:
There will be nothing that needs to be removed on the tail of the tonearm. There is only a small opening were the additional sub-weight would be carefully inserted when needed. The sub-weight is pushed into the hole on the back end of the tonearm and held in place by the pressure of the rubber o-ring on the sub-weight.
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Actually, the black gate is closed :)
Though I am currently listening to music and don't want to touch the tonearm and all the mechanics that survived the 6 hours drive in my car including some emergency break events without damage/issues.

I bet I can remove the black thing and insert the sub-weight there.

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peterott said:
Actually, the black gate is closed :)
Though I am currently listening to music and don't want to touch the tonearm and all the mechanics that survived the 6 hours drive in my car including some emergency break events without damage/issues.

I bet I can remove the black thing and insert the sub-weight there.

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I'm not sure I follow. That black piece on the back-end is part of the arm, it should not be a cap. If you remove (unscrew) the silver counterweight you will see it is all one piece. There should be a round opening on the rear of the arm tube as shown below. That hole is where the sub-weight is inserted.




Can you take a picture of the back?
 
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Sorry, probably we are talking about the same thing. I see in your image that at the end of the main weight, there is a hole (where you've drawn the yellow arrow) where the sub-weight is being inserted. Correct?

This would correspond to the drawing in the operators manual:
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My SR-929 looks like this (and sorry, I didn't want to screw off the plastic top). It doesn't show the hole but that black "whatever" thing stuffed into it. Looks like a black knob or something. I fiddled a bit on that thing but I couldn't move it. However, it feels like it is moveable when applying more force. As said, I am afraid of damaging anything here, hence I usually stay far away from such things.

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Does it make things clearer?

Cheers for you time and help @Vintagear :beerchug:
 
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peterott said:
Sorry, probably we are talking about the same thing. I see in your image that at the end of the main weight, there is a hole (where you've drawn the yellow arrow) where the sub-weight is being inserted. Correct?

This would correspond to the drawing in the operators manual:
oVzoKon.png



My SR-929 looks like this (and sorry, I didn't want to screw off the plastic top). It doesn't show the hole but that black "whatever" thing stuffed into it. Looks like a black knob or something. I fiddled a bit on that thing but I couldn't move it. However, it feels like it is moveable when applying more force. As said, I am afraid of damaging anything here, hence I usually stay far away from such things.

2yLyS59.jpg


Does it make things clearer?

Cheers for you time and help @Vintagear :beerchug:
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It's hard to see in your picture but to me it looks like the opening/hole I'm talking about on the back end of that black section is actually there. To be clear, unlike my 838 (in the pics I linked) which has a shiny metal rear portion of the arm-tube, the 929 rear arm-tube is black/grey plastic. I believe that what you think is a cap or plug is actually the tail of your tonearm.

*The sub-weight you are asking about is intended to be inserted into that black plastic tail, not onto the larger metal counterweight.

Either way I wouldn't worry too much about the sub-weight unless you are planning on using a very heavy cartridge.

BTW you don't have to unscrew the hinges to remove the plastic cover top, if you lift the cover from the back it slides up and out of the hinge slots for easy removal and installation.
 
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