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Stuff will always break...

FWIW, the counterweight on the tonearm in question IS removable, although the new owner will need a stylus force gauge of some sort to reset the VTF. There's just a long Phillips head screw and a spring holding the weight inside the shell. Removing the "innards" will at least minimize the inertia during a carton impact. Then again, some supporting foam, as suggested, would work too.
 
JOHN! Just to clear up any confusion. I was referring to the seller on Ebay here in the UK, where I bought that SL1200mk2 from. I would not have a go at another AK member - that is unjust.

Just needed to clarify and I'm sure you DID pack that unit properly:yes:
 
JOHN! Just to clear up any confusion. I was referring to the seller on Ebay here in the UK, where I bought that SL1200mk2 from. I would not have a go at another AK member - that is unjust.

Just needed to clarify and I'm sure you DID pack that unit properly:yes:

I am OK, was not referring to anyone. We are ALL friends here..:thmbsp:

Thanks,
John.:music::D
 
I totally agree with you on that, John! This is the place where you can help someone sort problems with their audio gear. IT'S BRILLIANT:D:D:D
 
It sure is a shame to see a tonearm end up like that. Given the relative weights and strength of that assembly, it would have to suffer a fairly good fall/impact for its own inertia to break it like that. Shippers really must be treating packages roughly!

Unfortunately (not talking about the OP here! :no:) a lot of people selling these things do not have experience shipping TTs. They aren't on AK, reading all the horror stories about broken TTs. They don't know how to pack these things properly, and just don't have a clue how much (and what kind of) packaging is needed --or worse, can't be bothered with the little bit of extra time/expense/work. The sad thing is that, even when someone takes the time and tries to do/does a good job of packing, as in this case, the gorilla-bozo squad at the shipping companies may still manage to break something. :nono: :sigh:

I hesitate to generalize, but the consistently best packaging I've seen comes from Japan. Ordinary Yahoo Japan (equivalent there to eBay in the States) sellers will pack things almost as well as factory packing, with carefully cut and fitted styrofoam and cardboard casings, small items put in sealed baggies and labeled, etc... It's not uncommon to find a nice hand-written thank you note atop the packaging when you open it, either. Even relatively unbreakable things are often "over-packed" like that. I've seen this repeatedly, in packages sent by different people from different parts of Japan, to different recipients here, so it definitely seems to be a part of the culture to do this, and as a result, things bought from Japan rarely arrive broken. I wish people elsewhere were more like that!

Of course, there are occasional "miracle" stories where something shipped loose in a bag with some old clothes, wadded newspaper or a few loose peanuts for packing, arrives intact after a long trip. But the horror stories far, far outweigh those. There is never a justification for taking such a risk, even if there are explanations (greed, stupidity, ignorance, not caring...).
 
I got the pictures from the buyer..

You make your own assumptions..:scratch2:

This covered the tonearm..

Thanks,
John.:music::D

Merry Christmas too All!!:banana:
 
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It's not enough to have a piece of styrofoam in the general area of the tonearm (which granted might protect the arm from a direct hit). The counterweight MUST be removed.

In the relatively rare instance (mostly low-end p-mount arms) where the weight is not removeable, rest assured that it was supported by a snug-fitting pre-formed stryrofoam packing piece when shipped from the factory, and re-shipping without that piece in place is an invitation to disaster.
 
A little off topic but, I bought a pioneer CD player from a guy off of Ebay about a year ago. He packed it very well with plenty of styrofoam and packing peanuts. They still managed to drop it SO hard that the transformer on the inside broke completely off of it's mount, busted the lens off of the laser, and basically tweaked the thing so bad that the tray wouldn't even come out. They shipped that one USPS as well.
 
Every post in this thread makes me think, "Criminy was I lucky!". Very sorry to hear about this though.
 
I got the broken TT back yesterday, I am going to fix it and use it around the place here.I refunded his money.

Thanks,
John.:music::D
 
I had a similar problem with a Pioneer PL-530 that I restored and sold on Ebay. The buyer said something wasn't right with the table. It was clear from a phone conversation that he knew nothing about turntables. So, I had him send it back and gave him a refund.

When I got it back the tonearm mount was broken (weak spot on the PL-530). Then I noticed the index line on the arm, used to set zero and tracking force, was now on the bottom of the arm. It took some force to turn it back to the top. That's probably how he broke the mount. I have no clue what he was trying to do.

You may have been the victim of a clueless, ham handed buyer, as I was.

Jon
It's nice you gave him a refund but I kind of feel like he broke it he bought thing. That's what kind of puts me off about selling on ebay that you get a guy who knows nothing about what he's buying he breaks it and wants a refund.
 
It's nice you gave him a refund but I kind of feel like he broke it he bought thing. That's what kind of puts me off about selling on ebay that you get a guy who knows nothing about what he's buying he breaks it and wants a refund.


All is well, I can fix it and make it work again...

Thanks,
And Merry Christmas!!

John.:music::D
 
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OK, it is in the repair process...should be playing again tomorrow!:banana:

Thanks,
John.:music::D
 
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A little off topic but, I bought a pioneer CD player from a guy off of Ebay about a year ago. He packed it very well with plenty of styrofoam and packing peanuts. They still managed to drop it SO hard that the transformer on the inside broke completely off of it's mount, busted the lens off of the laser, and basically tweaked the thing so bad that the tray wouldn't even come out. They shipped that one USPS as well.

I use FedEx, have not had any issues at all. Their prices are getting wacky. If you send a BIG box they use some kind of calculation to determine it's weight, not a scale, then they charge by the NEW weight? I sent an 11 lb BIG box, $33.35?? I sent a 26 lb smaller box, $17.68?? I will be changing shippers or at least check with other carries for prices.:scratch2:

Thanks,
John.:music::D
 
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