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Technics SH-8044 Equalizer hook up help

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Hello all, looking at getting some vintage 70's and 80's gear I acquired hooked up. I have this Technics equalizer model 8044 that I'd like to hook up to the Panasonic RA-6500 receiver. I have to ask, is it possible? I understand you are suppose to hook the equalizer up before the signal is amplified but with the connections...or lack of on the receiver I don't know if its capable? The equalizer has signal in/out...but also a tape Rec out/playback RCA jacks.

The receiver has the tape in/out - Aux - Phone - speaker A & B. I am sort of new at this and originally thought that I could hook the speaker output to the equalizer...then to the speakers but I guess this is totally wrong.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Chris
 
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Your EQ has a main input and output jacks. These will connect to your tape in/out jacks.

More specifically, the EQ's main in jacks will connect to the receiver's tape out jacks, and the EQ's main out jacks will connect to the receiver's tape in jacks.

The tape rec out/playback RCA jacks on the EQ itself is for the tape deck as the tape ins/outs on the receiver are now being used for the EQ.

If you are only using one set of speakers, these connect to the speakers A, left & right. A second set of speakers would be connected to the speakers B, left & right.
 
Thanks guys! That makes sense...especially what you mention Cademan...I can plug in the secondary cassette deck to the equalizer now.

So, the equalizer is only good for when using the tape function? I mean, listening to the radio/tuner it won't function correct?
 
The EQ will function on all settings. If you want to listen to the phono straight without any EQ, then the tape monitor will be in the "off" or "out" position.

If you want to listen to the phono with EQ, then the tape monitor will be in the "in" or "on" position.

Whatever your selector position is set at, you will hear everything EQ'd as long as the tape monitor is in the "in" or "on" position.
 
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Ok...got it, thanks! One last thing to ask...do you think it's worth getting a amplifier to hook up between the tuner and the main speakers? I see a few on Ebay that are period correct...just for a little added power I figured...???

Technics SU Z25 seems nice...
 
People do this all the time, but in order to do so, you need your receiver to have pre-out/main-in jacks.

I am not familiar with your Panasonic receiver, but if it doesn't have these jacks, then no.

EDIT: I looked up your receiver and it does not have the pre-out/main-in jacks.

If I understand your statement correctly, you want to hook up another amplifier to this receiver?
 
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Good to see you got it figured out ... nice toy!

And yes, the tape loop on the equalizer is there simply to replace the one on your receiver where the eq now resides.

If you want to run an external amplifier, you can tie that into the same loop using a Y cable or adapter. Been doing that for many years here driving a McIntosh MC2205 with my Sansui quad. Rather than Y cables, I found some hard connectors that do the same job, only they're a lot purtier ...

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In this case, there's a set of RCA cables coming from the tape out on the receiver to the adapters, then another set that goes to the tape in on the equalizer, then the tape out on the equalizer goes back to the tape in on the receiver completing the "loop" ... with any number of detours along the way. The loop is continuous so the amp gets the equalized signal ...
 
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Skizo...thanks for that cool response! It does seem like a nice toy! So, I'd like to ask...if I get the amplifier going would the hook up be -
tape out on receiver
tape in on equalizer
tape out on equalizer
tape in on amplifier
tape out on amplifier
tape in on receiver

Uh...I think I got it???

Also...where did you get those fancy solid connectors? All I found was the monster cable Y style connectors...they seem fine but always looking at options.
 
An equalizer is made to be inserted in-line with the signal path. Since you don't have a pre-out/main-in loop, your only hope is via a "tape monitor loop" where the signal is sent out of your receiver to an external unit and then back into the receiver exactly where it left it to begin with.

The Tape monitor loop" switch is what determines the signal path: "Out" and the signal stays inside the receiver. "In" sends the signal out to the external device and then back into the receiver.

If you don;t have that "loop" switch, the eq won't work in your system. It'll send the signal out but it won't be able to take it back in there.

In either case, the signal going out ththe "Tape out" will be before any volume, tone, balance, or any other controls aside from source selectin and perhaps tuning,

Just beause a unit has a tape out and atape in doesn't necessarily mean that it's in that "loop" configuration. They could be totally independent ofeach other.
 
Ugh, more stuff to research. I really don't have an idea if it has the proper loop the equalizer needs or not.

I am curious though, with the extra amp; wouldn't the signal go from equalizer - amp - speakers? I assume I no longer use the speaker terminals on the receiver and now the ones on the amp - correct?
 
You'll find out when you connect the eq and try to make it work.

Draw out the signal path on paper. It'll make it easier for you to understand how these things are related and connected.
 
Your Panasonic receiver has an external tape monitor switch and tape in/tape out jacks so your EQ will work fine with it.

Your question about an external amplifier (as mentioned previously) will only work if you have the pre-out/main in jacks which your Panasonic receiver RA-6500 does not have.

You can use an external power amplifier only if your external amplifier is a seperate integrated amplifier with its own set of speakers.

You would connect your external integrated amplifier from your RA-6500's tape out jacks but this connection would be null unless you want to run your RA-6500 along with an external integrated amplifier at the same time.

So you would have one set of speakers connected to your RA-6500, and one set of speakers connected to your external integrated amplifier and would have two volume controls, two bass controls etc, where your RA-6500 would be the main control unit.

Are you confused yet? :D
 
Confused? Getting there...but you all have been so helpful so I am also sort of understanding other things along the same time...if that makes any sense! Either way, I appreciate the time to answer my questions.

I think I got the amplifier thing though...just another set of - everything. I think I am going to have a mile of RCA jacks connecting this all together! I do now thanks to everyone suggestions have a decent grasp of how I am going to hook this all together.
Between the receiver, amplifier, equalizer, and external cassette deck...it should turn out pretty nice - or so I hope!

Chris
 
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