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Best is to ask her to bring her Zep LP over to listen to it on your setup. Ask if she hears a difference. If she does, then explain that the stylus on her turntable is the first problem, as it sounds bad and is killing the record. Help her find a better turntable to start, then, if she appreciates the difference it makes, you can help her get into a real system. Whatever else happens, happens.
 
When I moved to my apartment five years ago and was looking for new stereo gear (I left my Zenith four-mode system at my former home, as then the rig had 17 years on it and was starting to show its age as well as being horribly dated, as it had an eight-track player/recorder), I bought what I considered to be the best small stereo rig I could find at that time. I wound up with an Aiwa bookshelf system, 200 total watts (50 wpc with provisions for surround speakers). My own opinion of this system is that, although small, it puts out great sound (to my ears, anyway), even though the digital AM/FM tuner is not the best in the world.

My system is not the best on earth (not to mention being an off brand of sorts; Aiwa hi-fi gear is much better known in Japan than on these shores), but IMHO it is probably much better than the cheap system being discussed in this thread. I think if zdsrft's friend really wanted hi-fi sound (and didn't have the room for components and big speakers), she honestly, IMHO, should have gotten a system like mine. I've had it for five and a half years (as long as I've lived here) and not only does my system sound great, it is built to last; honestly, I haven't had five minutes' worth of trouble with it. I hooked the audio from my cable box and the soundcard output from my computer to it, and now have what I consider to be a fairly good apartment audio system. I don't know what zdsrft's friend's system is like (probably very cheap stuff, given zd's description of the sound), but again I think like some of the rest of you seem to, that the young lady would be doing herself a big favor by getting rid of the thing and getting a decent stereo system ASAP, even if she has to do a little looking to find one with a turntable (mine only accepts Aiwa TTs, and the turntable is an option; don't know about others, although some very cheap ones don't even have TT inputs--for example, I'd advise her to steer clear of systems like the Magnavox MAS series of bookshelf stereos, as these are bare-minimum systems with no aux inputs at all--the most upgrading anyone can do with these is put better speakers on them, as the stock speakers are little better than those found in transistor radios or cheap boom boxes).

From the description of it, her present "system" sounds to me like little more than a very low-fi toy. I don't blame zd for crying in his post; the sound from that system would probably make most people cringe at best and cry at worst. Seems to me that thing has a stereo amplifier and speakers little better than what one would find in a cheap portable CD or cassette player. I wonder how her system sounds through headphones. :scratch2: :dunno:
 
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most people in this world could give a rat's ass about 'good sound', and, despite out obsession, neither want nor need an introduction to 'good sound'. they just don't give a damn. and that's just fine.
 
Her buisness stay out of it. . .

Unless this person owes you money or is related to you I would stay out of her buisness. . . Of course I am just looking in the window here and you are in the room with her so what I say must be taken in pure general terms only.

I think if you truly do want to help her out then let her ask you for it. You might say that you are a vinyl lover too and you use blank. . . Do it in a matter of fact way so as not to imply that what she has is beneath your standards. You might invite her over some time to see your etchings. . .ooops wrong thread. . .I mean to listen to some of your vinyl not your system. Let that speak for itself if she can hear the difference as has been suggested already.

You might suggest that she tape her albums in order for them to last longer and that way she could use them for special occasions. Why not offer to put them on tape and loan her a good sounding tape deck that sounds better than her TT. . .She just might ask how did you make it sound so good. . .

We see and hear a lot of things where we must swallow our pride and go with the flow. . .
 
You don't have to be critical, or tell her she's ruining the record, or anything of the sort. If you actually care about the person, and she likes the records, say something to her about nice, enjoyable alternatives for playing the records and GIVE her a decent tt and receiver. Speakers too, if need be. If you're anywhere around here, I'd be happy to provide the hardware (there's plenty lurking in dank corners). The best (maybe only) reason to collect the cheap/free stuff is to help out people just like your acquaintence, who will more than likely be thrilled... especially if you DON'T have (nor give her a sense) that you have an ulterior motive!

Alternatively, buy her a new needle/cartridge (R/S has 'em online, as do Garage-a-records, etc.) and gift her with it. Install it, too. Ceramic cartridges are OK as long as they are aligned, tracking set right, and the stylus's good!
 
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philo426 said:
At the very least check the condition of the stylus and see if it can be replaced with a needle that will not damage the vinyl.


EXACTLY! :thmbsp: If she likes the sound well, good for her - hey, some people even like Bose :eek: :D

But it is your duty as an Audiokarmite not to let her ruin her classic vinyl by playing it with what amounts to a chisel!! Personally, i'd approach it along the lines of "Glad you're pleased with your system, would you like me to just give it a once-over and check it's in good health for you?"
 
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